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The lease rate for Gravity is much more of a microeconomic situation. Lucid will lower prices when (if?) they can meet demand.

I'm trying to be patient, the Air lease deals were also horrible when it was first released.

Marketing and not wanting to have too many tire wheel combos. Automakers put high performance tires on their big wheels. It's silly because there really isn't a performance advantage to super low profile tires (there is a huge performance advantage to the sticky tires though) All I'm saying is...

Maybe they wanted to use an OEM tire setup? They do actually make Hankook iON tires for the 21" size 245/35R21. It would interesting for someone to compare. They'd also have to run a set of front wheels in the rear since the 21" OEM wheels are wider in the back. edit: actually the 21" wheels are...

That's a much better test. I can quibble a little with the results though. First they're testing an ICE vehicle which is much more affected by wheel/tire weight, they have a difference of 54lb vs. 40lbs from biggest to smallest. It's too bad they didn't measure highway effficiency (which should...

Oops, you are right and those are the tires in the video. And strengthens the point that it's not at all a fair comparison. For some reason I thought they were all season. There is an OE all-season option (PZ MS, not PZ4):

You are correct that I am assuming that it can't produce clean data because I've never seen it produce clean data and I've seen a lot of Dragy plots. They all look like this: Also, they are clearly filtering it which would hide any changes in jerk anyway. Again, this does not mean it can't...

I'm not questioning Dragy's accuracy for measuring 1/4 mile or 0-60 times. There was speculation that the drive modes would change how fast the car goes from 0 acceleration to max acceleration. I was saying that the Dragy can't measure that because it can't even measure g forces accurately (look...

Really doesn’t look like the dream edition is going to be much faster to 60 unless they increased the torque and word is that they didn’t. If they maintain the same torque as the GT all the way to 60mph it looks like it will be about 3.2s. Totally acceptable acceleration for a 7 seater. Lol.

Yeah but it's not accurate for the third derivative of track accurate. speed = distance/time acceleration = distance/time^2 jerk = distance/time^3 You can see that the acceleration data of drag is already super noisy, the car is not actually oscillating between 0.7g and 0.8g. Jerk is how long...

Doesn't look like draggy is accurate enough to measure differences in "jerk" (the rate of change of acceleration) and it probably wouldn't make much difference in acceleration times (though it might make it feel faster.)

That's just the way single gear EVs accelerate, constant torque and then constant horsepower (with some rolloff at very high speed.) As can be seen on the g force line it's nowhere close to breaking traction. It feels like it accelerates faster above 30 because it keeps accelerating at the same...

I agree with most of what you said but the 21/22 and 22/23 data is fake. There is a 0% chance that all three coefficients are exactly the same to 4 digits (F0 F1 F2 in post #19).

It's worse than that, kW is not a unit of current. I think the Gravity can accept DC current of up to 500 Amps.

Yep, probably going to be more expensive than Gravity. The Taycan is more expensive than the Air.

Any engineer will tell you it's a dumb slogan too, engineering is all about compromises. Though being constantly behind schedule is consistent with trying to compromise nothing...

No, I'm quoting the video posted which is about a Model 3 Performance. A small correction, the OEM 20" PZ4 tires are all season but they are wider and much stickier than the OEM 18" tires (70-0 braking 163ft vs. 178ft skidpad .92g vs. .84g) I think the same will hold true for the Gravity, if...

One is running summer tires and the other is all seasons... Also the Performance wheels are staggered so at least the rear is wider.

Yeah, the lbf (mostly rolling resistance) and lbf*v^2 (aero drag) terms are both exactly the same with 4 digits of precision. They definitely faked the data (though that may be allowed). Just another example of how inaccurate EPA numbers are (they're also not actually measured by the EPA.)

This mystery was solved. When calculating the efficiency the EPA rounds to 500lbs. The 3 row versions are calculated at 6500lb and the 2 row versions are calculated at 6000lb. Very silly.