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It’s not really a mystery. The money factor and residual are different for the Pure, Touring, GT, 18 month, 36 month, etc…all the variables can make major swings in the interest rates and residuals. Lucid has historically gone back and forth with high interest rate/high residual and low...

That’s awesome. You have 20s too? I would love to know your driving patterns. Like most people on 20s and 21s, I average about 3.1. Doesn’t matter how smoothly I drive lol. Only way it goes up is lots of freeway driving under 70mph

Mobile Key has less range than the physical key. Physical key will unlock the car from like 100ft away if you’re moving around. Mobile key seems to have about a 20 feet range for proximity unlocking. Less likely for it to trigger unlock/locking from being nearby

Nah no issues. Maybe a bit of battery drain as the systems are constantly powering up and turning off. But that’s about it

What I want to understand is why the Air is so much more efficient at 70mph compared to other EVs. Out Of Spec, other anecdotes, plenty of online reviews, and even personal experience says you can get 4.0 miles/kw at 70mph compared which is great! A model S can’t do that. Neither can a Taycan. I...

Appears no Lucid ever made has ever had to pay for EA through Lucid’s charging service.

Yup got the Feb 5 email as well. My 12 months free charging technically expired in December 2024

Fair…but I don’t think you can discount the effect it has on the other cars. It could be a bigger drain on the Tesla or the Taycan. But we don’t know. It may have an effect sure, but all the cars are subject to the same conditions

And my point is that you You don’t know how much heating or cooling is needed for preconditioning. Especially if you’re cruising along for 2 hours at 80mph. You’re likely already preconditioned. Neither of us knows the effect. IONIQ 5 charges faster than the Lucid yet has a low temp as well...

I just told you…Rivian ideal preconditioning temp is 72F. In most cases it doesn’t even need to heat up, it needs to cool down to fast charge. Same with the IONIQ 5

Ok…and how is that relevant?

Yea this was interesting too. Could be statistical noise, environmental factors, etc…but definitely curious that the new model went backwards in raw efficiency terms. Preconditioning should be a super minor variable. If you’re driving along at 80mph, your battery is already pretty warm. And...

I mean…I thought there Lucid Air was the most efficient luxury sport sedan? Shouldn’t Lucid do better at 80 than Tesla or Porsche? Both have those cars have way lower efficiency ratings

Can anyone explain to me why the 2025 Air GT in OOS 10% challenge only averages 2.9 miles/kw in their 80mph range test? This basically matches the model S and Taycan. Luckily it does well on this test due to beastly sized battery, but the efficiency is a bit disappointing

This is truly the big question. You usually have to go up to the full size class (Expedition, Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade, etc...) in order to get a wide enough bench to put two car seats side by side. In the Air you CANT do this if one of the seats is occupied with a carseat. (maybe for 3 adults...

I think it's a little off-topic to go into, well Lucid does driving and interior, and build quality better. (Sure...i agree with that too). Since this thread is purely on ADAS, here's an objective test on FSD vs DDP. TLDR: FSD is the best system they've ever tested. 0 disengagements. Lucid's...

I understand you're trying to game the efficiency numbers by preconditioning before driving every day....but have you stopped to consider the drain on the battery from preconditioning just to see higher efficiency numbers in the car? Your effective efficiency might actually be the same...either...

I want whatever special software the moderator team has on their Airs! Why do you guys get the ones with perfect software!? It's a true conspiracy!:eek:

I think a refresh could come earlier. It’s kind of hard to say with these EV/Tech startups. Rivian did a refresh after 3 years. Tesla did their first one after 4 years. But given these companies didnt have a ton of money and cash reserves, a full redesign is unlikely. But I would expect minor...

And native Apple Music! Which I think is probably easiest since so many OEMs have a native Apple Music app now.