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    Car will not update. Lucid says needs new telematics module not covered by warranty. Is this normal?

    Maybe, but maybe not. I actually have also had good experiences so far. But I've seen more than one customer have a bad experience. And specifically writing this into the warranty and then standing by it is more than a "bad experience" - it signals actual bad intent. Especially if Lucid...
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    Car will not update. Lucid says needs new telematics module not covered by warranty. Is this normal?

    For Steve Lehto - I don't mean engage him legally, but he does podcasts/youtube videos specifically on these topics and as an advocate. I just think he might be interested in sharing the story, and in general might be helpful to have it shared.
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    Car will not update. Lucid says needs new telematics module not covered by warranty. Is this normal?

    Not going to help you short term, but also in terms of principle, I'd maybe reach out to Steve Lehto with your story. This sort of thing is right up his alley. He'd likely have some pretty interesting things to say about it. http://lehtoslaw.com/steve-lehto/
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    Car will not update. Lucid says needs new telematics module not covered by warranty. Is this normal?

    Make sure you contact Customer Care also, not just service. It'll still have to go through service, but might get some help from that direction. Given other Lucid service situations recently, doesn't seem like Lucid is too concerned with their reputation lately. Wonder why.
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    Car will not update. Lucid says needs new telematics module not covered by warranty. Is this normal?

    This is really nothing but a good way to tank resale values and hurt sales. To people defending this with other tech products: Show me another one where the window is *30 days*. The comparison to an iPhone update and your iPhone being hacked is not a serious one. Apple does not attempt to...
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    Highway Assist Much Improved After Latest Updates...

    That's interesting - one of the most "common" issues I had with it, is every time I passed an off-ramp, it tracked fine - but it would temporarily lift off the throttle at the end of every single off-ramp while continuing straight. Like it suddenly lost confidence right at the end.
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    Interesting - so Kyle in their latest EV race video provided something which maybe explains our differences. Apparently Lucid has some sort of counter + algorithm around DC fast charging. It de-rates DC charging performance based on some sort of ratio of how many times you have recently DC...
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    Lucid Support refusing to provide Support?

    What car manufacturer have you worked with where this is even remotely true? None. It doesn't work that way. But it isn't just a "now" - it has never worked that way. If I call up Ford customer service because I have an issue with infotainment on my F-150, they will direct me to my local...
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    Lucid Support refusing to provide Support?

    What are these names you're all using? I'm not familiar with a Lucid Support or a CS There's customer care, and lucid service? I was under the impression that customer care was "corporate", so fairly odd they'd give that answer if you're telling the complete story here. If the car isn't...
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    Lucid Air GT vs Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG

    Can confirm - also if you care about such things, ask to drive one with 20" wheels and performance tires. I did not like my test drive on a GT with the 19s and all seasons at all. 20s was a very different experience.
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    Yes, but in this case, the plating effect is actually a secondary effect, not a primary effect. The transfer of li-ion is intentional in this case, not an erosion effect, but the actual battery chemistry. The problem is when the overall rate is too high, they "miss" their intended target and...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    In this case it actually has nothing to do with voltage (well, it does, but in a different way), but just a matter of C rate. Temperature is relevant, but there's no temperature which prevents it, there's just an ideal temperature which makes it least likely. Which is what pre-conditioning...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    Check out the Engineering Explained video I linked regarding the lithium ion plating. The tl;dr is it happens at all SoC, and it's just a question of the probability/rate which it happens at different SoC based on a different charging rate. At both higher SoC and higher charging rates and...
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    Lucid Air GT vs Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG

    Oh they worked the hell out of the exterior of the i7. Full Joan Rivers treatment.
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    Lucid Air GT vs Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG

    If you value driving dynamics at all, even not "sports car", yeah - the Air is super compelling. I went from an Evora GT -> Taycan Cross Turismo -> Air GT. Clearly I'm slowly getting softer, but while I was driving the Evora, there weren't really many cars that were compelling to drive until...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    Don't know, the car is only a month old yesterday, and I've done 5 fast charging sessions total. The first isn't very good because it was a balanced charger that was being shared, and I did it at like 50% SoC just to test plug and charge/fast charging. The other 4 (all EA 350kW stations) 49.6...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    It is actually well known that higher rate of charge at higher SoC reduces battery longevity, it isn't an unknown. The question is just exactly how much the result is over time. See video I linked above, he explains it well and provides references. I think it's also well known for Teslas that...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    Exactly, it's not "I hope they can figure it out". They can set it to anything they want - they could tell it to just rip 300kW all the way to 100%. It'll just rapidly degrade the battery. Given Lucid's general approach to "make the car generally a better thing for people", including...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    I know they can do 2.6 mi/kWh - but my experience with them has been over long road trips, reality is closer to 2.2 on the Gen1 Quads. Other people I know with the Gen1 quads seem to be more in the 2.1-2.4 - you certainly can get 2.6, just unusual to average it. But that isn't the part that...
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    Lucid's Charging Curve, can it be improved via OTA update?

    This doesn't sound right. Recently did a trip between Chicago and St. Louis, which is ~350 miles each way. 2.6m/kWh is very optimistic for an R1S - are you sure this is true? I was still seeing ~160kW at 75% in the Lucid. I think it did drop to ~120kW around 80%. I just checked my app, it...
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