Search results for query: battery degradation

  1. R

    New Member in Phoenix

    It was the end of winter so I averaged maybe 2.8 mi per kwh and it was about $500 most charging was$ .55 -.60 per kilowatt hour. Any time you're on the road on the road utilizing public fast charging. It's similar cost to a 25mpg vehicle. Last year I drove 60k in in an EV in town and it cost...
  2. S

    New Member in Phoenix

    ...at fast chargers, the answer would be $300. Of course, this answer ignores other costs (depreciation, oil for an ICE vehicle, battery degradation for an EV, etc.) but even at that cost it is less expensive than doing the same thing in an ICE vehicle. I did the original calc because I...
  3. SpaceGhost

    Gravity Delivery Discussion

    It really depends on your use case. For you it looks like it makes sense. For me, my use is to drive from San Jose to Lake Tahoe (summer and winter) which is significantly uphill and cold in the winter. After 1-2 years of batter degradation, having that slight buffer makes the most sense. We...
  4. californiaboy935

    2 Options for Battery Longevity

    Have pretty exclusively charged on DC fast chargers and haven’t seen any appreciable loss of battery life, even over 60k miles.
  5. D

    2 Options for Battery Longevity

    All good! The car's battery will slowly degrade with time no matter how carefully you manage it ("calendar degradation"), so there's no substantial payback to super-careful behavior that reduces the utility of the car or your enjoyment of it. Even DC fast charging, according to Lucid, seems to...
  6. E

    If leasing is not available, would you cancel your Gravity order?

    I think mine is down 15% at 90k miles (271mi full charge), I thought that was normal. I thought most of the degradation in the batteries is actually calendar aging. I see reports of cars with 300k+ miles with similar degradation. I have started charging to 55% for the last year. There are so...
  7. P

    If leasing is not available, would you cancel your Gravity order?

    My pack had higher degradation than most for the miles- off over 15% from new in a bit over 80k miles. I did a good job keeping the battery below 80% unless road tripping, but I also did well over 100 supercharger stops where I’d come in on fumes, low single digit battery remaining, sometimes...
  8. P

    If leasing is not available, would you cancel your Gravity order?

    I see five main factors negatively impacting current Lucid or EV valuations, two to three of which I think will change medium term. 1. Battery longevity and cost. Generally the other mechanicals of EVs are both simpler and last longer that ICE cars, but the battery is the weak link. Replacement...
  9. 1

    The API shows a value named "battery health level". What is it?

    Useful information. Have a 2023 Air Touring with 21K miles (purchased new in 2024/01 from Lucid, manufactured 2022/11, so sat somewhere in the desert for a year or so - sand was still all over car at delivery. Not sure how they treat their cars and batteries in storage) Battery Capacity: 84...
  10. H

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    You can tell you are in California. Being able to do 56K miles of fast CCS charging on the east coast would be a nearly impossible feat . . . especially using Electrify America, where a fully-functioning location without an hour-long wait to plug in has been as scarce as hen's teeth. With the...
  11. californiaboy935

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    I think my personal experience however, anecdotal supports this notion. I have gone 56k miles and super charged 99.875% of them… okay more like 95% but have seen little degradation; 4%-6% in two years of ownership. And I drive the Lucid 19” hard and put her away wet, absolute joy to drive...
  12. borski

    SURVEY: HV Battery Replacement

    Did they say refurbished or remanufactured? They are not the same thing. I’ve only ever seen Lucid use remanufactured batteries. Remanufacturing is the rebuilding of a product to specifications of the original manufactured product using a combination of reused, repaired and new parts. It...
  13. Bobby

    SURVEY: HV Battery Replacement

    There’s nothing wrong with a refurbished unit. Generally, they will replace your battery with one that has equal or less degradation than your prior battery.
  14. P

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    The difference between the ideal being 20-80 or 20-55 may be down to chemistry. Teslas, for example, ramp fast charge down rapidly from ~30% onwards, and are pretty slow above 50%. Meanwhile I understand the Gravity will hold nearly full charge to 50%, while our Audi E-Tron GT and Hyundai held...
  15. E

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    Two years in and still DC fast charging almost all the time to 75 or 80%. Battery health is still very good, maybe 4% degradation. I'll switch to L2 charging when my free three years at EA ends and then I may even charge 40-60% on a daily basis.
  16. boydracing

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    Comments as I am no expert nor ever owned an EV. I have driven a few tho: #1. totally agree and this will be my practice for long term (more than a week of not use) #2. Makes sense unless you are going on trip and the 'needs outweigh the rules' #3. this is an awesome recommendation. My cousin...
  17. P

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    My guidelines would be a bit different than what's mentioned above. 1. Limit the amount of time the battery spends above 60% if you can. The battery degrades significantly faster when it sits highly charged. Close to 50% is ideal. If you can for example sit overnight at 55-65% and then charge...
  18. Bus Driver

    Anyone else doing high mileage on their Air?

    Somewhat related - Our July 2018-build Model X has 113,000 miles on it. So far we’ve experienced 9% battery degradation. Almost seven years in, we’re seeing the rate of degradation slow dramatically. I’m still looking forward to ordering my Gravity and dumping our Model X, and its free...
  19. illopp00

    The API shows a value named "battery health level". What is it?

    I wonder if they just want the battery back to examine it for testing, engineering validation on degradation.
  20. H

    The API shows a value named "battery health level". What is it?

    Our car: 2022 Dream Edition Performance 31,709 miles HV battery pack and rear drive unit replaced in mid-2024 API data: Field 4, capacity_kwhr: 106.68999761529267 Field 11, battery_health_level: 94.3000014051795 Field 16, battery_cell_type...
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