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    The Changing EV Climate in the U.S.

    ...fix. I think the solution is better battery chemistry, like solid state, to resolve issues with cold weather and range. For the battery degradation, i had my Tesla for 6+ years. It was still at 94% of original range. I only used superchargers when on long trips a couple times a year and...
  2. illopp00

    The Changing EV Climate in the U.S.

    NIO has solved this with battery swap, it solves so many issues: automated recharge in <5 mins, no charge curve to worry about, no battery degradation to worry about, no technology obsolescence to worry about. No carrying a giant 120KW or 220KW battery when you only need to pootle around town...
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    Gravity Reset Charge Limit on Its Own

    Off topic and perhaps already covered elsewhere, but as 80% and 60% charge limits are mentioned: I suspect 60% is noticeably friendlier for long term battery degradation for those that can swing it. Lucid’s cells are likely similar to the NMC in the middle graph.
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    Favorite Gravity Feature of the Day

    Hmmm..1st law of thermodynamics predicts heat loss from this system would "trickle drain" the battery. ...Love to see 5-7 year data on true quantified battery degradation of freq circularly charged vehicles vs controls and at various SOC though!
  5. 9point81

    Gravity Cold weather driving range experience (small sample)

    Most of us don't have to worry about temps thst extreme, so it's not really anything to be concerned about. The manual is giving best conservative advice and you can't go wrong following it, but my experience and research I've seen and read with other batteries is that as long as you don't...
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    Battery preconditioning before driving

    Don't know about battery degradation, but I've parked outside overnight, not plugged in when it was -25F. No driving issues other than limited availability of regenerative braking.
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    So long for now ! ? !

    ...the mid-price option, and LFP being the discount option. Second, I think the steady drumbeat of news stories announcing that battery degradation isn't as bad as many feared will somewhat soften the blow of EV depreciation. There will still be plenty, but it will be driven by a combo of the...
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    Gravity Delivery Discussion

    I see the Car and Driver 75 mph test for the touring actually achieved only 77% of EPA range, so the math is actually a bit worse than my 80% figure.
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    Gravity Delivery Discussion

    ...so if I get 80% of EPA range I'd consider that a great result. I usual keep my vehicles for a long time, so I also factor in 10% battery degradation. And I drive in cold winter weather, so put in another 10-15% range reduction for that. Then add in not wanting to charge past 80% to keep...
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    What’s your air pure efficiency in kwh per mile

    My 2023 pure have almost 24k miles. I bought it used couple of week back.. I loved the ride and experience but not sure about battery performance.. I’m getting average 3.4 to 3.7 and never seen doing it above 4. Are there any potential more than expected degradation? And what should be next...
  11. JeffSter

    Lucid Gravity update 3.3.5 + fob update

    Mine certainly behaved more rationally when i noted it was a little less responsive and replaced it. Outright failures… reset, reboot. For minor degradation of response, fresh battery seems a better choice.
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    Gravity 75 mph Range

    I might have read the same article as hmp10. It said “occasional” fast charge/discharge is good for the battery. I made a point of showing it to my wife and said “see honey, when I get my Gravity, I am occasionally going to have to romp on it. It’s good for the battery.”
  13. Knucklehead

    Gravity 75 mph Range

    ...make sense. If you fast charge and fast discharge, it is logical to assume it is harder on the cells. A study that shows the opposite is interesting, but is it valid? IDK. My Mach-e had higher than typical battery degradation and I blame lots of WOTs. Nothing else I did was super stressful.
  14. electric

    Cell temp rise during Level 2 charging at low rate

    During charge it's perfectly acceptable to reach and stay at up to 113F without abnormal degradation, so I'm surprised to see reduced rate when it's only at 104F. In fact, I made an assumption that rate reduction is even related to cell temp rise, correlation doesn't mean causation, but I don't...
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    Gravity 75 mph Range

    There's a guy on the Tesla forum that's always posting about this and he's convinced me that the thing that really matters is only charging to 55% for normal daily driving (note that Lucid themselves recommend 50% charge for "storage") https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/8851576/ From this...
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    Gravity 75 mph Range

    ...your lungs. You mention "conventional wisdom"...do I take that to mean always using fast charging has been shown to cause more battery degradation versus mostly slow charging? What about depleting the SoC all the way down to less than 5%?? Does anyone know of decent science on this or is it...
  17. Knucklehead

    Gravity 75 mph Range

    Worry about it. (LOL just teasing @Ron_Burgundy.) In my experience the following is true: 1. Battery health matters if you care about range. 2. Battery health is primarily dependent on battery age. 3. While age is the primary factor, the way the battery is treated definitely impacts battery...
  18. Ron_Burgundy

    Gravity 75 mph Range

    Don’t worry about it. They spend a significant amount of time and money to use software to stop you from messing up the battery. Unless you’re DC charging daily or running it below 10% daily, you’re highly unlikely to experience degradation beyond what a super cautious person experiences.
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    Gravity 75 mph Range

    ...conflict with conventional wisdom on the subject. But the good news is that long term battery data is increasingly showing that battery degradation isn't nearly the problem people expected it to be a decade ago. My personal conclusion is that one shouldn't overly worry about it. Just...
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    Gravity 75 mph Range

    So wait... what I've gathered from reading about EV batteries is that changing past 80% on the regular is kind of a time waste as the charging curve drops and it takes longer to charge from 80%->90% than does to go from say 20%->80% but occasionally charging to 100% for a road trip isn't real...
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