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  1. S

    Battery Health - How much degradation is normal?

    I have a 2025 Air Pure purchased in late June 2025, so it's not quite 14 months old and has under 9k miles on it. After buying it I road tripped it home over a 3-day weekend, using level 2 charging one time and DCFC 3 times. The L2 charge was to 100% but the DCFC were up to about 80%. Since that...
  2. illopp00

    Battery Degradation Study Pattern

    Interesting video with some aggregated studies. Pattern appears- Good thermal management and high-voltage (800-900V) is recipe for great longevity, temperature is the enemy, sitting at full voltage or C-rates when charging...
  3. Edward

    A good way to check battery health?

    After 40 months, and 13,462 miles Field 11, battery_health_level: 97.00000144541264
  4. S

    A good way to check battery health?

    ...is based on the usable capacity instead of battery pack size. There is a buffer between usable and pack size, and the initial battery degradation eats into this buffer. In the Gravity’s case usable is 117.39 kWh vs. a pack size of 123 kWh. At some point, the degradation will be high enough...
  5. D

    A good way to check battery health?

    Understood - my suggestion of charging to 100% overnight was to allow the BMS to balance the cells at the top end. It's possible that the observed drop in SOH was just a side effect of a cell imbalance.
  6. S

    A good way to check battery health?

    There is no need to charge to 100%. A quick way to get ballpark battery degradation is by using the following formula: current_rated_range / current_SOC / EPA_range. For example, for my Gravity: current_rated_range: 134 miles current_SOC: 32% EPA_range: 420 (GDE, 7-seater, 20/21 inch wheels)...
  7. Buffalo Bob

    A good way to check battery health?

    Your math looks good, but I do see other counterpoints that suggest an odd set of calculations in the API. For example, the EV Database publication for the Pure/Touring AWD says that the battery has a nominal capacity of 94 kWh and a useable capacity of 92 kWh. Also, the 2023 Lucid Air Pure...
  8. S

    A good way to check battery health?

    The Air Dream Edition has a battery pack size of 118 kWh. However, the usable capacity is around 112 kWh when new. Using 112 kWh as the base, you get 93% degradation. What I can gleam from all the posts, estimated usable vs pack size (kWh): GGT & GDE: 117.39 vs 123 ADE: 112 vs 118 AGT: 108 vs...
  9. C

    A good way to check battery health?

    ...referring to the usable battery capacity. In either case, no need to overthink and overanalyze this. These numbers clearly show battery degradation in these cars is very low. It is very likely the battery will outlast the car. Just enjoy the car and don't worry about the battery (while still...
  10. LRSIII

    A good way to check battery health?

    It seems there are multiple ways we can measure the battery degradation in these cars, and it sure would be nice if Lucid would clarify which one is correct. My car is a 2022 AGT, where the original high-voltage battery was replaced by Lucid in 2024. The paperwork for that service claimed that...
  11. californiaboy935

    Taking Care of the Battery - Suggestions from Battery Engineer from Lucid

    120,777, and no battery issues. Charge to 100% often for range and have enjoyed no ill side effects. I bet @HC_79 could actually see what percentage I charge to 100%…
  12. P

    The API shows a value named "battery health level". What is it?

    ...says the 22 denotes module count, so Pure & Touring would have _18 and everything else would have _22. FWIW, the battery degradation typically has a steep drop off in the very beginning and then flattens out over time. So people with brand new cars would see a drastic drop down to 96% or...
  13. Bosscat

    Buying a Lucid in the next 60 days

    Thank you! 10100 this afternoon I do long drives and I plan on doing quite a few. I have a business that is finally running Barry successfully on its own and I finally have the time in the resources to do whatever I want and I'm gonna travel in the lucid. I feel like right now the sweet spot...
  14. S

    Lucid wont accept Extended warranty that DIRECT PAYS? WHAT?!?!?!

    ...and are just concerned about the mileage? ICE cars have engine wear and tear where mileage really matters. For EV’s, you have battery degradation, but I’ve heard reports of EV’s with 500k miles on them. Unless you have a specific reason for getting a newer car, I wouldn’t worry about...
  15. S

    Buying a Lucid in the next 60 days

    ...If you value range, get the 19” wheels and not the 20” (smallest wheels). Wheels makes a big difference. Also, factor in 10%-20% battery degradation by the time you get to 200k miles. I like having a big battery as my daily drives fit within a 40% - 55% SOC window for optimal battery health...
  16. R

    Thinking about buying a used Air, how can I tell how the previous owner charged it?

    You know you could just ask the person you are buying from at this point. 76 miles / .18 battery percentage = 422 of 446 rated miles. Matches the battery health value exactly from the testmycode.cc.
  17. S

    Thinking about buying a used Air, how can I tell how the previous owner charged it?

    You don’t need to charge to 100%. Take the rated range and divide by your current charge state. I’m just curious if the rated range takes into account battery degradation or if it always reflects the new state. See my earlier post:
  18. S

    Thinking about buying a used Air, how can I tell how the previous owner charged it?

    Is the degradation reflected in your rated range? What is your current rated range divided by SOC (and what size tires)?
  19. R

    Thinking about buying a used Air, how can I tell how the previous owner charged it?

    94% of original battery health at 49k miles over 2.5 years (eg. 6% degradation). My guess is time has a far greater impact until you hit the 8% degradation mark where most of the cars are flattening out to. The website doesn't have a graph for time, but the wide spread would likely tighten up...
  20. D

    Thinking about buying a used Air, how can I tell how the previous owner charged it?

    I wouldn’t worry about it. I’ve had multiple EVs and tried different ways to protect the battery, and also tried doing absolutely nothing. They all had the same mild degradation and worked well.
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