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Lucid's Future Amidst The Middle East Conflict

BS8899 said:
Agree with your points.

Until recently, the auto-pac between US and Canada blocked the entry of Chinese EVs to the North American market. That's changing!.

I was just in Toronto. No Chinese EV showrooms yet, but they are coming soon. With time, the Chinese EV manufacturers will establish the necessary infrastructure in North America to be competitive. The North American EV landscape will change significantly in the coming decade!
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I never thought it would be possible to unwind our tech lead so quickly by such “foolhardy “ groups
 
fadooly said:
Btw CEER will reveal it is new car in a week

I am not sure why lucid is not part of this. I was hoping they could supply at least the motors

They are literally neighbours

The plants are next to each other wall to wall 🤣

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CEER is a low cost volume producer, Lucid tech is too expensive for those cars to be profitable. CEER is for Gulf countries, not US or Europe. Lucid is their luxury so they need to differentiate.
 
gaskiller said:
CEER is a low cost volume producer, Lucid tech is too expensive for those cars to be profitable. CEER is for Gulf countries, not US or Europe. Lucid is their luxury so they need to differentiate.
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I thought the Atlast Motors are the lowest cost motors per kw in the industry?
 
illopp00 said:
I thought the Atlast Motors are the lowest cost motors per kw in the industry?
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Does that imply inexpensive? I mean is a Bugatti the lowest cost 300 mph car available?
 
illopp00 said:
I thought the Atlast Motors are the lowest cost motors per kw in the industry?
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Doesn’t matter. Who’s going to buy it? No legacy manufacturer is going to buy anything from Lucid. Maybe Lucid can use it in their own cars, all two of them. They got bigger kettles of fish!
 
Aka-none said:
Does that imply inexpensive? I mean is a Bugatti the lowest cost 300 mph car available?
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Yes because their drivetrain also uses the lowest amount of batteries. The rest of the car however, is low volume expensive stuff...The Bugatti is not the lowest cost 300 mph, its money no object and priced accordingly. Where else would CEER get their motors? Hyundai is the only other realistic option.
 
socktucker said:
Doesn’t matter. Who’s going to buy it? No legacy manufacturer is going to buy anything from Lucid. Maybe Lucid can use it in their own cars, all two of them. They got bigger kettles of fish!
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Aston Martin, for one.
 
According to the press release CEER is using components from Hyundai, BMW, Siemens and several other firms. Motors have a low impact on vehicle profit.
 
ke2 said:
I thought Aston Martin was owned by Lawrence Stroll. DId he sell?
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They are a public company, but his group owns about 30%. Mercedes provides them with ICE engines for some models.

Shareholder Breakdown (2026)​

The table below reflects disclosed stakes based on the most recent shareholder filings and regulatory announcements as of early 2026.
ShareholderApprox. StakeRoleEntry Year
Yew Tree Consortium (Lawrence Stroll)~32–33%Executive Chairman; largest shareholder2020
Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF)~17–20%Strategic / sovereign investor; board nominee2022
Ernesto Bertarelli~13–14%Private anchor investor; passiveVarious
Geely Holding Group~14–17%Strategic / technology partner; board observer2023
Mercedes-Benz AG~7.5–9%Technology partner; powertrain supplier2013
Lucid Group~3.7%EV technology partner2023
Institutional & public floatRemainderPension funds and retail investorsOngoing
 
illopp00 said:
They are a public company, but his group owns about 30%. Mercedes provides them with ICE engines for some models.


Shareholder Breakdown (2026)​

The table below reflects disclosed stakes based on the most recent shareholder filings and regulatory announcements as of early 2026.

ShareholderApprox. StakeRoleEntry Year
Yew Tree Consortium (Lawrence Stroll)~32–33%Executive Chairman; largest shareholder2020
Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF)~17–20%Strategic / sovereign investor; board nominee2022
Ernesto Bertarelli~13–14%Private anchor investor; passiveVarious
Geely Holding Group~14–17%Strategic / technology partner; board observer2023
Mercedes-Benz AG~7.5–9%Technology partner; powertrain supplier2013
Lucid Group~3.7%EV technology partner2023
Institutional & public floatRemainderPension funds and retail investorsOngoing
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LCID is an Aston shareholder? Interesting.
 
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