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Finally I am biting the bullet and upgrading the home panel to 200amps, I have a 2026 lucid air touring, need some advice for going with OEM or a 3rd party charger? Any feedback would be appreciated, also if anyone is looking to sell their 80amp home charger, I would be interested. Thanks in advance.

I am in San Mateo, CA.
 

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Are you planning on taking the 80 amps from the 200 amp panel that is running the entire house or installing a separate 200 amp panel that will initially be for the 80 amp charger?

There is allot of expertise on this forum (and I am not part of that group), but I can already hear some of the questions coming your way.
 
I have two chargers: a Chargepoint (at the cottage) and a LHCS (at home). I got the Chargepoint (48a max) initially for my old EV in part because it was wifi-capable, but I find that capability to be basically worthless to me. I got the LHCS via referral points, and find the faster charging to be helpful because I sometimes forget to plug in and the extra charging speed comes in handy. I have been able to connect to my Lucid charger via wifi, but that is a torturous process that provides info that has little value.

I am glad I have the extra speed of the LCHS, but I'm not sure I would pay a premium for it. Instead, I would probably opt for a couple of affordable, well reviewed "dumb" chargers.

(We have one EV in our household, and do not plan to add a second at any time in the near future.)
 
Grizzl-e 80A has been money for me with my 200A box...Both the Air and Gravity charge near their specs on it...
 
I got the Lucid charger and have no issues with it. However, if I could go back, I would’ve purchased a more generic charger as my electric company offers discounts on charging for a laundry list of chargers, but not Lucid’s.
 
Chargepoint has been great for me. The app gets lots of updates and the interface and ability to control charging speeds etc has been good.
 
I had a charger, don't remember the brand, but when it died I had an electrician hardwire a Nema 14-50 EV plug on a 50A breaker and I limit it to 40A via the app and everything works great. Save yourself some money
 
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Personally, I'd go with a reputable third-party unit unless you can get the LCHCS at a very low price.
I have an LCHCS installed at home, expecting V2H at some point. It was more expensive than it should have been and hasn't been supported well.
 
I think the first question is whether or not you need the 80A. Your driving habits will likely determine that requirement. If that's not a critical issue then you have a host of options to consider.

It is worth checking with your utility to see if rate discounts are available with different chargers. I personally use an Emporia Classic which unlocks rate savings with my utility. Typically utilities will have a list of chargers that qualify for these various incentives. I don't really have a need for the 80A speed, but if I were to replace my existing charger I would probably opt for the Tesla universal charger as it seamlessly incorporates NACS and J1772 plugs in a single unit.
 
I had a 240V outlet installed in the garage and use the Lucid mobile charging unit that came with the car. Works great on a 50 amp circuit. The current limiter is set to charge at a maximum of 40 amps. That gives me a charging rate of about 40 miles per hour on a 2026 Air Touring which is very adequate for home charging.
 
tmichael said:
Are you planning on taking the 80 amps from the 200 amp panel that is running the entire house or installing a separate 200 amp panel that will initially be for the 80 amp charger?

There is allot of expertise on this forum (and I am not part of that group), but I can already hear some of the questions coming your way.
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Total 200 amps for the household, allocating 80amp for the lucid.
 
jlshriver said:
I had a 240V outlet installed in the garage and use the Lucid mobile charging unit that came with the car. Works great on a 50 amp circuit. The current limiter is set to charge at a maximum of 40 amps. That gives me a charging rate of about 40 miles per hour on a 2026 Air Touring which is very adequate for home charging.
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Which brand did you go with ?
 
jlshriver said:
I had a 240V outlet installed in the garage and use the Lucid mobile charging unit that came with the car. Works great on a 50 amp circuit. The current limiter is set to charge at a maximum of 40 amps. That gives me a charging rate of about 40 miles per hour on a 2026 Air Touring which is very adequate for home charging.
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I did that for awhile too. Then my mobile charger started acting silly. Would start and stop multiple times during the night. The record is just over 100 times. o_O Still waiting to hear from Lucid on warranty coverage of a replacement. So I went out and bought an Iyilo charger. Tom Monoghney reviewed on his State of Charge channel. Loving it!! Makes it so much easier to schedule so that AIR0GNT and YUSEGAS (Wife's Model Y) don't try to charge at the same time.

Full Review: 1 hour

Quick review: 10 minutes

This unit got the highest score to date of all chargers reviewed on the State of Charge channel. One of the only things Tom dinged it for was not having a NACS option. When I went to order mine they had added a NACS option. I use J1772 with AIROGNT of course, but it's interesting to see how quickly they responded to the only glaring negative part of the review.
 
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Are you interested in using your car as a battery back-up for power outages in the future? If so, you should consider models that state that they will be V2H compatible.
 
tango123 said:
Which brand did you go with ?
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This is the unit that came with my car. https://store.lucidmotors.com/40a-mobile-charging-cable-kit-j1772/
The outlet we used is a NEMA 14-50 outlet with a 50 amp circuit breaker.

"The Lucid Mobile Charging Cable is a dual-voltage, 40-amp unit that comes with two interchangeable, swappable wall-outlet adapters: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
NEMA 14-50 Adapter: For 240V, high-power Level 2 charging (up to 40 miles of range per hour)."

So far this setup is working well.
 
jlshriver said:
This is the unit that came with my car. https://store.lucidmotors.com/40a-mobile-charging-cable-kit-j1772/
The outlet we used is a NEMA 14-50 outlet with a 50 amp circuit breaker.

"The Lucid Mobile Charging Cable is a dual-voltage, 40-amp unit that comes with two interchangeable, swappable wall-outlet adapters: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
NEMA 14-50 Adapter: For 240V, high-power Level 2 charging (up to 40 miles of range per hour)."

So far this setup is working well.
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Works well
Used that for quite some time until I finally decided I wanted the ability to charge faster
Run what you have
 
jlshriver said:
I had a 240V outlet installed in the garage and use the Lucid mobile charging unit that came with the car. Works great on a 50 amp circuit. The current limiter is set to charge at a maximum of 40 amps. That gives me a charging rate of about 40 miles per hour on a 2026 Air Touring which is very adequate for home charging.
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The car will limit its charging current to the maximum set by the charging adapter - you don't need to reduce the car's charging current to match. You could leave the car set at 80 amps and it won't exceed the mobile charging adapter's 40 amp capability. This is a key function of how the charging adapter and the car work together.
 
djeuch said:
I ended up installing two of these: Enphase IQ EV 2 Charger
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I also have an Enphase IQ 2 working well, charging with only excess solar, and am looking forward to installing Enphase's new DC bidirectional charger in the other garage bay when it becomes available. My thought is that I'll have both AC and DC bidirectional capability if/when it ships.
 
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