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Where is UX 3.0 for the Air?

TahoeMichael said:
I'm not sure I'm reading the subtleties of your post correctly, but I'm a bit baffled why you bought an AGT if you don’t appreciate its virtues as much as you appreciate the strengths of a model 3.
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Pretty simple Michael. Research as well as the folks at Lucid led me to believe that FSD was eminent in a car equipped with Dream Drive Pro and things like LIDAR and cameras. Shame on me that thinking the flagship model of the self described top EV would not have that, let alone a functional AI assistant and carplay integration. The whole point of software upgrades (one would think) is to actually upgrade the experience. The reasons I bought the AGT were aesthetics, range and luxury, which I got in spades. For $135k everyone should expect similar tech basics to a base model 3.
 
Lester Atlas said:
Research as well as the folks at Lucid led me to believe that FSD was eminent in a car equipped with Dream Drive Pro and things like LIDAR and cameras
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Yeah that irritates me now too how heavy they sold themselves as better than Tesla on many ways where they are not and do not ever appear to be either.
 
Lester Atlas said:
…. For $135k everyone should expect similar tech basics to a base model 3.
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socktucker said:
Yeah that irritates me now too how heavy they sold themselves as better than Tesla on many ways where they are not and do not ever appear to be either.
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I look at it this way…

When I compare our Tesla to our Lucid I can always point to things that one has that the other doesn’t. Tesla has FSD, Lucid doesn’t. Lucid has massaging seats, Tesla doesn’t. Lucid has CarPlay, Tesla doesn’t. Tesla has YouTube, Netflix, and other apps and games. Lucid doesn’t.

I try to compare them on aspects that are the same or similar in intent to deliver value.

Ride quality? Lucid is better. Handling? Lucid. Performance? Lucid. Energy efficiency (mi/kWh) Lucid. Cargo? Tie. Lucid has more cubic inches but Tesla can handle the single biggest item if necessary. Passenger room? Lucid. Charging speed? Lucid. Availability of usable chargers? Tesla.

FSD is clearly Tesla’s ace in the hole. Nobody else does it (yet). Thing is, and this is just me speaking for me, I use massage seats more than I would need to use FSD, so the idea that Tesla can drive point-to-point and Lucid cannot (yet) is not really an issue for me. Sure, it is for some. Those folks should just buy a Tesla because that’s the only way they’re gonna get it (for now).

On balance, the Lucid is a better car in multiple ways. If you absotively posilutely gotta have FSD there’s only one answer. If Lucid “loses points” for not having it, then so should Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Cadillac, Jaguar, BMW, etc, etc.
 
Lester Atlas said:
Research as well as the folks at Lucid led me to believe that FSD was eminent in a car equipped with Dream Drive Pro and things like LIDAR and cameras.
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I did extensive research before purchasing an AGT last year. Nowhere in any of that research did I come across anything that said or suggested that FSD was imminent. And I’ve seen nor heard anything from Lucid that would suggest otherwise. I suppose you might have relied on something relayed by a salesperson. But unless those promises are conveyed in writing or can otherwise be verified, they are useless.

In short if FSD is important buy a Tesla.
 
Northpointe said:
I did extensive research before purchasing an AGT last year. Nowhere in any of that research did I come across anything that said or suggested that FSD was imminent. And I’ve seen nor heard anything from Lucid that would suggest otherwise.
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Me either. FWIW I bought the car for the features it had, not for some features hoped for in the future. But that's just me YMMV.
 
goldengate said:
I just returned from Bangkok where I rode around in $20,000 Chinese EV's with incredible software and suspension. Charging stations all over Bangkok. Flawless software from what I observed. On this forum we kind of act like it's this huge ask to just have a car whose basic functions are stable, but at this point it's not. Everyone else is doing it. I know it's not as easy as copy / pasting the software from Tesla and others, but good grief, how hard is it to add a 10 second delay to the lock sequence so it doesn't lock when you walk around from one side to the other side of the car? Clearly, super hard.
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Doing it on one screen is easy, when you have three……
 
JGard18 said:
I’ve said it before in here and I’ll say it again. Never buy something on promises and hopes. Buy it for what it is at the time of purchase.
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We former Tesla owners know that well. I remember them telling me my 2018 would drive itself with zero intervention. When I traded it for the Lucid last year, it still drove like a drunk 15 year old. But I loved that car, and appreciated the constant software updates that added features and kept improving it, as well as the fun "Holiday update" that would bring light shows and whimsy to my vehicle. Now I get in the Lucid and it random switches to km/h instead of mph... perhaps that's the April fool's joke software update early!:D
 
goldengate said:
We former Tesla owners know that well. I remember them telling me my 2018 would drive itself with zero intervention. When I traded it for the Lucid last year, it still drove like a drunk 15 year old. But I loved that car, and appreciated the constant software updates that added features and kept improving it, as well as the fun "Holiday update" that would bring light shows and whimsy to my vehicle. Now I get in the Lucid and it random switches to km/h instead of mph... perhaps that's the April fool's joke software update early!:D
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Metric speed numbers are bigger so you must be going faster.
 
I thought this was a thread about 3.0 for the Air. Silly me. It’s just another Tesla thread.

Ugh.
 
Let’s try and keep threads on topic, please?

I, for one, to get back on topic, no longer expect UX 3.0 for my Air. I would not be surprised if that were put on the chopping block by the new CEO. I’d love to be pleasantly surprised and end up being wrong about that.
 
Seems like a bit of a legal problem. I was induced to buy the new chip because v3.0 was coming. Was told that by service manager and it was stated by Lucid.
 
joec said:
Let’s try and keep threads on topic, please?

I, for one, to get back on topic, no longer expect UX 3.0 for my Air. I would not be surprised if that were put on the chopping block by the new CEO. I’d love to be pleasantly surprised and end up being wrong about that.
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Indeed, it is hard to predict what the new CEO will keep, and what he will axe. But I feel like it makes real sense for Lucid to converge on a common software platform and upgrade the Air. That would save them a lot of effort over time. If Lucid were to decide to stop adding anything to the Air and let the software stagnate, that would be a different story. But I'd be surprised by a decision like that while they only have two vehicles in the market. Maybe someday when there are three more.
 
joec said:
Let’s try and keep threads on topic, please?

I, for one, to get back on topic, no longer expect UX 3.0 for my Air. I would not be surprised if that were put on the chopping block by the new CEO. I’d love to be pleasantly surprised and end up being wrong about that.
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At the owners event during Monterey Car Week one of the staff from Lucid's software team showed up. He was specifically asked about UX3.0 by @Tesla2Lucid and was told it will be coming by year end. It sounded like it wouldn't have all the Gravity features day 1 but they would progressively roll them out in future updates.
 
HC_79 said:
At the owners event during Monterey Car Week one of the staff from Lucid's software team showed up. He was specifically asked about UX3.0 by @Tesla2Lucid and was told it will be coming by year end. It sounded like it wouldn't have all the Gravity features day 1 but they would progressively roll them out in future updates.
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That’s good to hear. I know it was on track to be out before year’s end before Emad and Marc left. Hadn’t heard anything since.
 
azguy said:
Seems like a bit of a legal problem. I was induced to buy the new chip because v3.0 was coming. Was told that by service manager and it was stated by Lucid.
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Where do you have it in writing?
 
Bobby said:
Where do you have it in writing?
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Not the way many consumer laws work. Especially federal ones. If it leaves a false impression in the minds of a reasonable person it can mean big trouble. Many companies have had big payouts for less. When a representative of the company tells me "you need this installed to get our big software update" and if a few dozen more customers agree that's all she wrote.
 
azguy said:
Not the way many consumer laws work. Especially federal ones. If it leaves a false impression in the minds of a reasonable person it can mean big trouble. Many companies have had big payouts for less. When a representative of the company tells me "you need this installed to get our big software update" and if a few dozen more customers agree that's all she wrote.
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I don't remember them ever giving a timeline.
 
I was told late summer/early fall. Again, they took my money and they need to deliver. If they decide not to deliver, I'll let them know who to write the check to.
 
azguy said:
I was told late summer/early fall. Again, they took my money and they need to deliver. If they decide not to deliver, I'll let them know who to write the check to.
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I was told by an employee of lucid that the release is dropping in September, so next week or so should be it.
 
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