Lots of Gravity inventory in Miami World Center garage.

[…] looking at early Gravity reviews from 2025 every single one of them raved about the amazing driving experience, comfort, space etc.....and condemned the vehicle, and the entire brand, with unreliable software and the #*!@$! KEY FOB - buyers beware!

For those who are on the fence on purchasing a Gravity due to the software and key fob problems, I believe Lucid has turned the corner.

In my 7 months of ownership, Lucid has released 4 significant updates and the latest 3.6.3 release is solid. The software today is night and day compared to 7 months ago.

The Gravity key fob introduced UWB (ultra-wideband) for advanced capabilities and to prevent wireless theft, and unfortunately, we saw all the growing pains. A lot of the pain is gone. I personally have never been locked out of my Gravity, and my small delays/inconveniences with the fob have disappeared. Also, forum chatter has turned positive, with those who experienced problems in the past reporting that the fob is working well with the latest updates.

I’m now comfortable handing my wife the Gravity keys and letting her drive solo. She wants a car that “just works” and the Gravity is finally there.
 
For those who are on the fence on purchasing a Gravity due to the software and key fob problems, I believe Lucid has turned the corner.

In my 7 months of ownership, Lucid has released 4 significant updates and the latest 3.6.3 release is solid. The software today is night and day compared to 7 months ago.

The Gravity key fob introduced UWB (ultra-wideband) for advanced capabilities and to prevent wireless theft, and unfortunately, we saw all the growing pains. A lot of the pain is gone. I personally have never been locked out of my Gravity, and my small delays/inconveniences with the fob have disappeared. Also, forum chatter has turned positive, with those who experienced problems in the past reporting that the fob is working well with the latest updates.

I’m now comfortable handing my wife the Gravity keys and letting her drive solo. She wants a car that “just works” and the Gravity is finally there.
I concur. Since 3.6.0 my key fob has worked 100% of the time even before the recent fob update firmware that came out for it. The software is night and day compared to what the car launched with. Honestly, the software has been stable for me for probably 4 to 6 months now.
 
Ditto, and this totally surprised me. The Lyriq V is another car I am following as a possible next car. I was recently surprised to learn that Cadillac is selling the Lyriq V and Vistiq at volume with little to no discount off MSRP. That is a major home run.

This is another massive home run. Cadillac used to have the highest age average buyer, which is pretty much a death ring of irrelevance. They are bringing their average age down.

We totally agree on this point. I think there is huge demand for Lucid products. And I agree that software, support, and a few other misses in this luxury category are what is holding the Gravity back from much stronger potential performance.

Combining the two thoughts... The Vistiq is selling at about the same pace as the Gravity, yet the Vistiq has a lot of shortcomings compared to the Gravity. And the Escalade IQ, with its insane price, is selling well too (but not as high as the Vistiq). The buyers are out there to be captured. (Cadillac's BEV sales are an amazing recovery story, given how horrific the software was at the Lyriq's launch.)
Just remember, Cadillac has a more robust service network. Cadillac probably has almost 600 dealers, Lucid- 45 service centers. It’s a given that Cadillac will sell more despite being a worse vehicle.
 
It is not double-standard or bias. It is just simple data and observation. @zoomzoom's post above and its observation are spot on. We all wholly agree on this. "The Vistiq loses HANDILY in every single category other than price. Driving, comfort, luxury, passenger space, and OMG storage. They were so far apart that they aren't even comparable vehicles."

If you define the Gravity's class as luxury 3-row SUV, there are very few competitors: Escalade IQ, Vistiq, Gravity, EQS SUV, R1S, and EX90. And I think that the R1S and EX90 are a small stretch to consider them luxury. And yes, the Gravity will mostly trounce them all in efficiency, range, charging speed, acceleration, handling, space, storage, etc.

Yet the Gravity's sales are not class-leading. Not even close. In fact, they are stagnating. What do you think is holding Gravity sales back? (Monthly sale data from Good Car Bad Car.)

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I never said that Gravity had out of date tech. Not sure where you got that. I said it looks like Lucid is operating from an out-of-date playbook where it has no competitors and luxury buyers will give them grace for the flaws. I did say that their tech is lacking compared to other luxury SUVs, such as PaaK, HUD, and some of the software glitches they still have not ironed out.
I do not agree with your previous assessment that- “ it’s a 100k vehicle so it should be perfect”. That’s where we disagree.
 
I do not agree with your previous assessment that- “ it’s a 100k vehicle so it should be perfect”. That’s where we disagree.
I never said that. Like I never said Gravity tech was outdated.

But to the point of that post… why do you think is holding Gravity sales back?
Just remember, Cadillac has a more robust service network. Cadillac probably has almost 600 dealers, Lucid- 45 service centers. It’s a given that Cadillac will sell more despite being a worse vehicle.
You overlooked the point about the Vistiq at the end of the post. Those two are selling at volume without discounts off MSRP. Gravity could be capturing those sales.
 
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What I see here is Gravity sales on the increase and the competition, aside from R1S, on the decrease. Not a coincidence. Of course price matters but the Gravity is an obviously and objectively a superior product to go along with the price tag. Any other car on this list has at least one if not multiple enormous concession compared to the Gravity. Many people looking in the luxury >$100k category would pay an extra $10k or $20k over the competition if it meant a better car. Frankly, I and I'm sure others would pay an even larger margin rather than suffer a life with the Vistiq (see my prior anecdote above). The horror! (truly)

The reason the Gravity is not yet trouncing the competition in sales is not driven primarily by the price IMO. It's brand awareness and the scarlet letter of bad software and unreliability. Outside of certain demographics most people have probably never even heard of Lucid. Forget gutting the software team, the marketing team should have been shit canned long ago. It's a crying shame that most people know of Rivian but Lucid remains unknown to most. They are at different stages company maturity of course but Lucid needs to step it up big time.

To my second point, looking at early Gravity reviews from 2025 every single one of them raved about the amazing driving experience, comfort, space etc.....and condemned the vehicle, and the entire brand, with unreliable software and the #*!@$! KEY FOB - buyers beware! Once the damage is done to the reputation it is very difficult for the average person to change that perspective even if the software has improved which it of course has and is now largely excellent.

If given a long enough runway I am confident that enough people will obtain a Gravity and tell all their friends, co-workers, and neighbors how great it is and the tides will turn but that will take YEARS for the reputation of software reliability to improve and for sales to exceed the competition. Will they be funded long enough for that to happen just on the back of the Gravity's excellence? Who knows.

Lucid will live or die on how well the Earth/Cosmos launch goes. They know this. I have no doubt the vehicle will be class leading but they CAN NOT have another key FOB fiasco. People need to be able to get in the car and drive away 100% of the time. It's table stakes and the early Air/Gravity issues were, frankly, utterly embarrassing and inexcusable for a company that puts out such incredibly engineered vehicles. I truly believe these cars will shake the industry permanently and drive more thoughtful design in legacy makers, and that's good for everyone. It is unbelievable that a new car company has come in and made two of the best cars across every metric, by a mile, in their respective classes. Truly brilliant engineering and design.

#IStandWithLucid
Exactly, it’s embarrassing…..no wonder the entire leadership team got shafted. Gravity should have been released with 3.60 iteration of the software. A few YouTubers had to light up their backsides to get it fixed promptly, otherwise they would have taken their sweet time.

In a way, those YouTubers probably did Lucid a service.
 
Since 3.6.0 my key fob has worked 100% of the time even before the recent fob update firmware that came out for it
I agree the key is better, but still FAR worse than any cheap car, like the my Nissan rental from last week.

The buttons only work if you are very close to the car and opening the trunk is still infuriating. Sometimes I wait 10-20 seconds, right next to car, holding the trunk button and nothing happens. Eventually the car wakes up from whatever state of delirium it was before.
 
I agree the key is better, but still FAR worse than any cheap car, like the my Nissan rental from last week.

The buttons only work if you are very close to the car and opening the trunk is still infuriating. Sometimes I wait 10-20 seconds, right next to car, holding the trunk button and nothing happens. Eventually the car wakes up from whatever state of delirium it was before.
There's a button on the lip of the trunk just to the right of center that you can use to open the trunk. The frunk does not have this feature and you must either use the key fob, the Lucid app or get into the car and use the touch screen.
 
I never said that. Like I never said Gravity tech was outdated.

But to the point of that post… why do you think is holding Gravity sales back?

You overlooked the point about the Vistiq at the end of the post. Those two are selling at volume without discounts off MSRP. Gravity could be capturing those sales.
My opinion is that the brutal reviews of the poor software quality have held back sales. While the software quality has improved, we have a dearth of new reviews cheering Lucid's progress on that front. I'm not a marketing person, but I think the marketing team at Lucid needs to figure out a way get the word out that the software quality has gotten a lot better. I'm sure that's a bit of a delicate dance for them, because no company likes to acknowledge that their first iteration of a product was deeply flawed, and it's hard to say you're better without acknowledging the initial failure.

I lost my $1k deposit in December because I refused to take delivery of my Gravity order, as I was overly concerned about the state of the software at that time. August is filled with travel for me, but I plan to be back at a Lucid studio in September, and hopefully drive away in a GGT. That change of heart is from hanging out here and seeing the improvement. But buyers who just browse the reviews aren't necessarily going to realize that Lucid has made big improvements since the Gravity was released last year.
 
Yeah, the idea of value is hugely personal, and some aspects could make folks feel like they got a bargain with a $140K Dream Edition.

So true. It took Lucid too long to work through the software teething pains of the Gravity, but our Dream Editions still are the best all-around vehicles we've ever owned.

And even at $140K, I view them as a bargain from a value perspective.

The feature list is as long as anything on the market . . . and they are all standard on the Dream Edition.

At no price point can you find an SUV with the passenger and cargo room of a Gravity.

It is the most efficient vehicle in its size and weight class.

It is one of the two fastest charging electric vehicles available in the U.S.

Almost nothing matches it in power. (Car & Driver found a Gravity Dream Edition weighing in at almost 6,000 pounds will reach 150 mph three seconds quicker than a Corvette Z06. Let that sink in . . . . )

No SUV except a Porsche Cayenne Electric can match its handling. But that car -- which has only two rows -- can easily top $200K.

When one vehicle can do more things better than any other vehicle on the road, conventional "value" calculations just seem to fail.
 
There's a button on the lip of the trunk just to the right of center that you can use to open the trunk. The frunk does not have this feature and you must either use the key fob, the Lucid app or get into the car and use the touch screen.
The car still has to unlock first though. I assume that's what he's referring to. Mine has the same issue. Can't open any door, liftgate, frunk, or charge flap until the fob is first recognized to unlock the car, and that often takes 5-20 seconds.

Sounds like most cars don't have that problem after the last few updates, but some still do. Anxiously waiting for 3.6.3 to see if it fixed it this time.
 
The Gravity seems finally to be reaching the stage where it is ready to be sold -- a point for which Lucid should have waited before releasing the Gravity to the public, and especially before putting it in the hands of the automotive press. The reputational overhang of its premature release will be lasting, especially on top of the same thing happening with the Air release.

With his teeth gritted, my brother is taking delivery today of a new Tesla Model Y to replace his 2018 Model 3. He test drove a Rivian R2 but didn't like it and decided not to wait for the new Volvo competitor, as it promised to cost about $20,000 more than the Tesla. I tried to get him to look at the Ioniq 5, a truly impressive car that a friend has recently bought and loves, but he was scared off by the persisting issues with its low-voltage battery. He had badly wanted to wait for the Lucid Cosmos, but he has only one car, and after vicariously living through our first year with the Air and then the two Gravities' software and hardware issues, he felt he just couldn't take the risk of getting an early production Lucid. He so likes driving and riding in our Lucids that he would have been willing to sit out the first year of production to get a Cosmos, but he just didn't have the time.

Gravity inventory has built up not because of its price. Expensive cars have no trouble finding buyers. It is the ubiquity of problems with things as basic as getting into and starting up the cars that has packed inventory lots.
 
I plan to be back at a Lucid studio in September, and hopefully drive away in a GGT.
Sorry to be nosy, but if you are comfortable enough to make the move to a Gravity, why don't you place an order now? Do you always buy off the lot or want to first drive the car you actually get? Truly, just curious. With that amount of time until you take the plunge, why not order now and get a vehicle exactly as you want with a later build date?

I'm always interested in what makes someone pull the trigger and whether one cares if a car is exactly what they want or close enough to what they want.

Again, apologize for seeming nosy. ☺️. There is no "right" answer.
 
3.6.0, in June allegedly knocking D Pro in a plurality of cars, was one of the hiccups to my delivery. Still waiting to see if 3.6.3 fixes it, but I don't think Lucid is out of the woods if updates can render features broken, for >month. A $6700 option, which was found in a couple of reported deliveries since the issue arose, is also concerning. I sympathize with owners perspectives, as well, as for instance I wasn't aware D Pro effectively has a D Premium (or basic Autopilot) mode owners can fall back on. This situation is a microcosm of many problems reduced to redundancies, and I think that's the point. Apart from a significant minority of deep-sleep cars taking up to 20 seconds, for entry, many issues seem like less probable one-offs.

This morning, filtering all GGT inventory is back up. The only difference is I'm seeing NEW_2026_GRAVITY_GT_MYFIRSTEV_DISCOUNT_LABEL without a dollar amount, only appearing in 'Available' cars (does not appear in filtered inventory). Most everything else looks to have carried.
 
our Dream Editions still are the best all-around vehicles we've ever owned...When one vehicle can do more things better than any other vehicle on the road, conventional "value" calculations just seem to fail.
Gravity inventory has built up not because of its price. Expensive cars have no trouble finding buyers. It is the ubiquity of problems with things as basic as getting into and starting up the cars that has packed inventory lots.
These two posts kind of sum up what I think is the state of things... Expensive cars do have trouble finding buyers when they do not deliver the essentials in their category or primary purpose. That is what I am personally feeling, and I wonder if more buyers are like that. When the Gravity launched, it was a great electric car. But it was not great at simply being a car, especially an expensive luxury car. And therefore, it has been able to attract well-heeled enthusiast buyers who can both afford the car and are willing to tolerate the issues and quirks, but the Gravity needs to bridge to capture the prosperous buyers who want a great car, not just a great electric car.

I will be buying my 3rd electric vehicle this year. I have not had a service visit or software problem in a very long time. (In fact, I think my last and only electric vehicle software problem was about 2 years ago when an OTA broke automatic time setting in my car, but it was fixed in the next OTA.) Including my prior gas car, I don't think I have been to a dealer for unscheduled service in over 10 years. Ideally I would like to continue this track record with my next electric car purchase.

I want a great car, one that I can always depend on and have no drama in day-to-day use. And I want the sugar on top of a great car: a great electric car too. My current car is not a great electric car - it has so-so efficiency, so-so luxury, and packaging is horrible with little storage. But it is pretty good at driving, comfortable, has decent range, good passenger space, and all the technical goodies. In other words, it absolutely excels at being a car by doing what I want it to do perfectly every time.

I am not at a point in my electric vehicle ownership journey where I am willing to sacrifice everyday excellence for just being excellent at electric car stuff. And I suspect that there may be more people like me that have been taking a wait-and-see position on the Gravity because of stories of the issues. The 3.6.0 and 3.6.3 updates seemed to have been reformational for the Gravity, but there are a couple major gaps (PaaK and HUD) along with some remaining annoying defects and odd behaviors folks are posting about. I will not write a $120K check for a premium luxury vehicle without PaaK or functional HUD. I am hoping to see more progress before I have to make my purchase decision. I suspect I am not alone.
 
Also coming from an iX. The Gravity humiliates the iX in practicality, packaging, handling, etc.

The iX humiliates the Gravity in reliability and serviceability. It never even crossed my mind that pressing a fob button to open the trunk and the trunk wouldn't open for 30 seconds. Everything just works. Every. Single. Time.
 
Somebody just posted in another thread that it didn't fix their fob delay. ☹️
There may be more than one reason that some people experience an entry delay. Fob hardware, vehicle hardware, fob software, vehicle software, and a complex tree below each.
I still have not had a single issue, five months into ownership.
 
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