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Polestar out of US

How lame. They made cool cars and seemed to be gaining traction.

I guess it’s good for Lucid?
 
Detroit will be happy……
 
See what happens when Saudi Arabia plans to invest a trillion dollars...
 
They literally build the Polestar 3 in South Carolina. What in the fresh hell is this? What a kick in the nuts to Polestar. Who is this supposed to hurt? Everyone?

Welp, love seeing less options in a struggling market. Shame, I was looking to forward to the updated Polestar 3.
 
Spaceship said:
They literally build the Polestar 3 in South Carolina. What in the fresh hell is this? What a kick in the nuts to Polestar. Who is this supposed to hurt? Everyone?

Welp, love seeing less options in a struggling market. Shame, I was looking to forward to the updated Polestar 3.
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a gift to the guy that owns Tesla who has lots of dirt on this administration?
 
socktucker said:
a gift to the guy that owns Tesla who has lots of dirt on this administration?
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Don't think Polestar is selling robots anytime soon, so I don't think this was his doing.

This reminds me when Hyundai and Kia moved a lot of their production facility to the U.S. for their vehicles to qualify for the $7,500 tax credit just for the tax credit to be removed months later. Hard for anyone to cheer this on IMO these companies add jobs here to then be scolded out. Doesn't seem like Polestar will fight this too much either.
 
Whelp, that kind of solidifies my choice in October when my lease is up. I was torn between leasing a new Polestar 4 or buying a used Lucid Air. Hopefully the future of Lucid has become clearer by then...
 
Spaceship said:
They literally build the Polestar 3 in South Carolina. What in the fresh hell is this? What a kick in the nuts to Polestar. Who is this supposed to hurt? Everyone?

Welp, love seeing less options in a struggling market. Shame, I was looking to forward to the updated Polestar 3.
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What makes even less sense is that the Volvo EX90 is basically the same car as the Polestar 3 (both built in SC) and Volvo was granted the exception while Polestar wasn't...
 
chazglenn3 said:
No, Volvo was granted the exception last month :mad:
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Do we know what this was based on? Does Polestar sound more Chinese than Volvo or something? They are both owned by Geely and have vehicles coming out of the same factory. I'm sure Polestar can fight this if they wanted but they are probably right in investing their resources elsewhere.
 
Spaceship said:
Do we know what this was based on? Does Polestar sound more Chinese than Volvo or something? They are both owned by Geely and have vehicles coming out of the same factory. I'm sure Polestar can fight this if they wanted but they are probably right in investing their resources elsewhere.
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From WSJ:

Developed during the Biden era, the “connected vehicle” rule aimed to restrict the import or sale of vehicles with hardware and software linked to China, citing national-security concerns.

Carmakers had until March of this year to attest to the U.S. government that their products don’t contain code written in China or by a Chinese company, or otherwise petition for authorization to continue sales of vehicles beginning with model year 2027.

Volvo, also majority-owned by Geely, received authorization in May to continue operating in the U.S. At the time, Volvo noted that the process to obtain an authorization is carried out on a “case-by-case basis” and the approval followed discussions between U.S. officials and the automaker regarding Volvo’s technology and data security.
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So yes, it would appear Polestar is “more Chinese”
 
China has brought this on to themselves. Their insistance that any data accessed by a Chinese company be accessible by the government if asked has made the purchase of any internet connected device designed and built in China, very risky. In addition to the spying capabilities, there is the possibility of bricking certain products or having your Chinese ADAS system drive you off a bridge. Companies like Apple get around this restriction by having the chips and software be designed/manufactured outside of China and just use China for final assembly.
There is also the issue of the heavy subsidizing of the EV industry by the Chinese government. They are not doing this to give Chinese citizens access to cheap EVs, but rather make the rest of the world reliant on their cheaper EVs and then when the competition is driven out of the market, raise prices because they control the market.
Got no problem with buying cheap clothing from China but need to give serious thought before buying an internet connected device made or designed there.
 
This feels short-sighted. That's less competition for buyers and that'll hurt innovation. That'll also shut down the jobs related to US manufacturing and assembly.

And before anyone tries to step in and talk about "surveillance" or "privacy", American auto companies aren't better either. This example ban on GM is only a temporary restriction. So unless you get meaningful change that will legitimately protect people's privacy, they'll be right back at it and sell your data without a second thought
 
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And I just got this ad on Facebook. Summer of Clarity... As in it's clear it's a bad time to buy a Polestar.

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