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Cosmos prototype

I love that thing. I won't get one, but I like the look.
 
L-Dude said:
I love that thing. I won't get one, but I like the look.
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I think it's too soon to make any judgements about the exterior. AI renders don't help us uncover any details about it
 
L-Dude said:
I think this thing may be a winner.
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I hope so! I think they could knock it out of the park but depends on specs to be competitive and software to be reliable/functional.The R2, ix3 and ex60 will all be out and had months to improve before cosmos becomes available. Heck, even Tesla could have done something innovative like made their Y more comfortable!

However, this is coming from someone who hasn’t even considered the gravity touring because the cost for its range is a non-starter.

If they can get a Lucid engineered cosmos, which I am assuming is a given and then make it with a 0-60 time near 4.0 sec and 400 miles of range for $60k - that is when I get get super excited. If they get robustness in the software pre-launch then everyone at Lucid deserves bonuses because this will be huge!
 
What do they for range here should be interesting. With the iX3 and EX60 setting 400 as the new range mark, if they can match this with a smaller battery and better performance, the Cosmos is set to make some waves.
 
Spaceship said:
What do they for range here should be interesting. With the iX3 and EX60 setting 400 as the new range mark, if they can match this with a smaller battery and better performance, the Cosmos is set to make some waves.
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I think 400 miles is achievable for midsize, at least with the bigger battery pack. 300 miles might still be in play for the smaller battery option
 
tmichael said:
joec said:
Camouflage makes it so hard to tell the true shape of a car. Which is the point, I guess.
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We see alot of prototype/camo cars in Detroit. I agree on wheels.

Try to not see the rear spoiler and put a glass window back of the c-pillar. Certainly takes on the mini-Gravity shape!

Fun! Dream Ahead!
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My last 10 years working at a major Detroit based OEM I led part of the Competitor Intelligence team. Spent a lot of time oggling camo-clad vehicles and parsing out the important elements. One of the most fun chapters was seeing camo-clad GM, Ford, and Ram pickup trucks that were obviously electric. Led us to draw a lot of conclusions around what those trucks would be. Turned out most of them turned out to be Rivian chassis with a GM, Ford, or Ram truck body installed over the chassis and camouflaged. Well played Rivian, well played.
 
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not old enough to get the whole SUV thing. I think they all look blah. A smaller air variant sedan with a hatch (Model S/EQS) and I'd be all over it. Very difficult too to see something with so broad a front profile as this to get anything much over 330 Mile range. At least it will have NACS.
 
Lucid has been clear that this is a $50k EV. Lucid's target has to be the R2 seeing as that's the other 50k midsize EV new to the market. R2 Premium trim pricing puts it at about 55k without taxes. Tack on a couple extra grand for non-standard exterior/interior colors and that still puts it below 60k. Add features to the iX3 and EX60 (you can't even spec out a 400mi P12 in the US yet) to get the same stuff as the R2 puts them well above 60k even though you get a bigger battery (an 800v architecture). That might not matter too much since Tesla has shown that people will just deal with slower charging speeds.

For 50k, I don't think we'll see a 400 mile EPA range for the Cosmos unless Lucid uses the 5-cycle test to be able to use a reduced adjustment factor to pretend the range is something it isn't in real world conditions. I think that would be a huge mistake. If Lucid uses the same 88kwh sized battery as in the R2 and their investor day efficiency claim of 4.25 mi/kwh is honest then that's a 375mi range.

Clock is ticking for Lucid.
 
erigion said:
Lucid has been clear that this is a $50k EV. Lucid's target has to be the R2 seeing as that's the other 50k midsize EV new to the market. R2 Premium trim pricing puts it at about 55k without taxes. Tack on a couple extra grand for non-standard exterior/interior colors and that still puts it below 60k. Add features to the iX3 and EX60 (you can't even spec out a 400mi P12 in the US yet) to get the same stuff as the R2 puts them well above 60k even though you get a bigger battery (an 800v architecture). That might not matter too much since Tesla has shown that people will just deal with slower charging speeds.

For 50k, I don't think we'll see a 400 mile EPA range for the Cosmos unless Lucid uses the 5-cycle test to be able to use a reduced adjustment factor to pretend the range is something it isn't in real world conditions. I think that would be a huge mistake. If Lucid uses the same 88kwh sized battery as in the R2 and their investor day efficiency claim of 4.25 mi/kwh is honest then that's a 375mi range.

Clock is ticking for Lucid.
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400 miles at 50k might be a stretch, 350 miles I could possibly see if I'm being optimistic. 400 miles on the larger pack, that I can see happening
 
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Need4Sleep said:
400 miles at 50k might be a stretch, 350 miles I could possibly see if I'm being optimistic. 400 miles on the larger pack, that I can see happening
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remember that they are factoring in massive efficiencies into Cosmos that Air and Gravity has none of. The total cost of manufacturing is going to be much lower. So they could potentially put a larger pack into Cosmos to achieve 400 mi base range and not breach $50k. I would not be surprised if they plan to blow away the other competitors at $50k with 400mi range, sub 4 sec 0-60, and decent luxury interior. They seem quietly confident that Cosmos will sell amazingly well in Europe and US markets. It must beat R2 specs on range, speed, handling, and luxury at same price point. If it does it will also beat iX3 and EX60.
 
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remember that they are factoring in massive efficiencies into Cosmos that Air and Gravity has none of. The total cost of manufacturing is going to be much lower. So they could potentially put a larger pack into Cosmos to achieve 400 mi base range and not breach $50k. I would not be surprised if they plan to blow away the other competitors at $50k with 400mi range, sub 4 sec 0-60, and decent luxury interior. They seem quietly confident that Cosmos will sell amazingly well in Europe and US markets. It must beat R2 specs on range, speed, handling, and luxury at same price point. If it does it will also beat iX3 and EX60.
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To me, were I in the market, is that is is not a Tesla.

They continue to sell well but I am convinced the dynamic would shift if there was real competition, especially with superior engineering.
 
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remember that they are factoring in massive efficiencies into Cosmos that Air and Gravity has none of. The total cost of manufacturing is going to be much lower. So they could potentially put a larger pack into Cosmos to achieve 400 mi base range and not breach $50k. I would not be surprised if they plan to blow away the other competitors at $50k with 400mi range, sub 4 sec 0-60, and decent luxury interior. They seem quietly confident that Cosmos will sell amazingly well in Europe and US markets. It must beat R2 specs on range, speed, handling, and luxury at same price point. If it does it will also beat iX3 and EX60.
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If Lucid does achieve the 400 miles at even $50k on the dot, then I think they'll have hit the home run. Key word is "if". Personally, I think that if they get even high 300's (or close enough rounding to 400) at sub-$50k, they'll already be at a good place.
 
Macgreiner said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not old enough to get the whole SUV thing. I think they all look blah. A smaller air variant sedan with a hatch (Model S/EQS) and I'd be all over it. Very difficult too to see something with so broad a front profile as this to get anything much over 330 Mile range. At least it will have NACS.
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I would be shocked if this isn’t what follows on the midsize platform.
I am looking at my first suv because of other drivers and mar car is getting a bit old.
The bigger cars are safer for the occupants and there are a lot of people impaired while driving whether it is screen addiction, weed, booze, or other drug, dementia and illness, or work/home/finance/etc issues, too few people are handling a lethal device without full capacity/attention often. I am a fan of aptera and think their use of solar and efficiency design is amazing and their production setup to get it built “cheap,” but I doubt I would buy one for the same reasons I wouldn’t buy any other trike or motorcycle atm. If autonomy were more functional and embraced that would change the calculus for me, but not today. SUV ev is my next car.
 
Macgreiner said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not old enough to get the whole SUV thing. I think they all look blah. A smaller air variant sedan with a hatch (Model S/EQS) and I'd be all over it. Very difficult too to see something with so broad a front profile as this to get anything much over 330 Mile range. At least it will have NACS.
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A smaller Air variant in the Model 3, BMW i3, MB C Class EV segment is something that I would be interested in 2 years from now. However I believe Lucid said they weren't going to do another sedan - pity.
 
Need4Sleep said:
If Lucid does achieve the 400 miles at even $50k on the dot, then I think they'll have hit the home run. Key word is "if". Personally, I think that if they get even high 300's (or close enough rounding to 400) at sub-$50k, they'll already be at a good place.
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I think it's too soon to make any judgements about the performance.
 
DrJBell posted thumbnails of the AI generated red one, but I like it enough to repost larger images.

Caution: these are fake! But I like them anyway.

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Repeat: these are fake, but nice!
 
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DS9 said:
A smaller Air variant in the Model 3, BMW i3, MB C Class EV segment is something that I would be interested in 2 years from now. However I believe Lucid said they weren't going to do another sedan - pity.
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The market for small sedans is getting smaller and smaller here in US. Americans are mostly buying SUV’s (small and big) as well as pickups. Smart decision for Lucid to focus on higher demand segments. The Japanese and Koreans dominate the low to mid price market and Germans dominate the mid to higher price market. These manufacturers have the benefit of having home markets that still want small cars to help justify continuing with small car development. US manufacturers have largely abandoned not only small cars but sedans in general.

But like you, I would love to see an AIr or Cosmos based convertible. My wife drives (mostly) a Mercedes E450 convertible that will need to be replaced in 4-5 years and would love if someone came up with a sport/luxury EV convertible to replace it.
 
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