Maybe not side to side but the hardware must allow leveling front to back. It would be crazy to link the front and rear air pressures on a vehicle with such a large payload and tongue weight.
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True!! I was told my Gravity is going to production line last week of August, so I'll be watching carefully. I'd be really pissed if they string me along and then tell me there is a delay towards the end of August, as I'd be coming back to no car at all. That's why I'm giving it a couple more weeks before cutting and running to Rivian. Hoping Lucid comes through...but not showing many signs yet. (But sure love all their posts about ramping up overseas and how many Saudis are buying. lol)
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Tough to predict. Some folks have had cars “in production” for 2 months others can get lucky with a VIN match. That’s my big challenge right now on timing.
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You should be able to get away with a lightweight (aluminum) box/bag hitch platform, if you put your lightest weight / bulkiest item in it. Though the way the rear hatch swings out, in addition to up, I wonder if we’ll need to use swing out hitch racks (which are heavier). There’s also the roof rack, though, which should be easier to reach than one on the R1S.
Has anyone with a Gravity used it with a hitch accessory yet?
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I'm trying to avoid roof racks due to the efficiency loss and the wind noises from them. Cargo box is so much better but no way will the good swing-away ones work. The YakimaEXO swing base is 68 pounds alone. Add the weight of the box and that would only leave you with ~5 pounds of stuff. Hardly worth it. Perhaps there are lighter weight swingaways, but to me, this is a non workable idea due to low accessory weight.
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FWIW, I’ve seen effectively zero efficiency loss on my R1S with roof rack. I suppose with something mounted on the rack, it IS less efficient.
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I'm late to the party here, but I have a '25 Rivian R1S Trimax. In conserve, I can hit 400 miles of range at 75 or less, which is plenty for my bladder. The adaptive headlights, the hands-free ADAS system, and now with Google Maps nav make the Rivian an excellent choice for road tripping. As far as charging speed goes, it is slower than the Lucid but in my experience you are fueled up in 30 min per stop which is about perfect for using the restroom and stretching your legs. With the long range you're driving 3-4 hours before stopping, so it's not a big deal to charge a little longer IMO.
The Rivian is positioned higher, so its driving dynamics aren't as good on curvy roads as those of the Gravity, but its off-road capability makes up for that if you utilize it. The Ascend interior, found on the Tri and new Quad, is on par with Lucid's. I'd say the Gravity gains a point for real leather availability, but the Rivian gains one for overall design. The software on the Rivian works pretty well and the platform is more established, but Rivian's aren't without initial build quality issues. For example, mine needed servicing because someone from the factory didn't seat a connector for my rear defroster. It was an easy fix but I had to take it to a service center. Other than that it's been great.
The only other vehicle on the market in consideration for me would be the Gravity. The Cadillac escalade is too big, the vistiq doesn't have a frunk which is a huge miss. Tesla is a non starter for me as their "premium" ev's have a considerable down market feel relative to the Rivian or the Lucid. I will look at the Gravity again in a couple years, when hopefully there will be good availability of the platform.
The Rivian is positioned higher, so its driving dynamics aren't as good on curvy roads as those of the Gravity, but its off-road capability makes up for that if you utilize it. The Ascend interior, found on the Tri and new Quad, is on par with Lucid's. I'd say the Gravity gains a point for real leather availability, but the Rivian gains one for overall design. The software on the Rivian works pretty well and the platform is more established, but Rivian's aren't without initial build quality issues. For example, mine needed servicing because someone from the factory didn't seat a connector for my rear defroster. It was an easy fix but I had to take it to a service center. Other than that it's been great.
The only other vehicle on the market in consideration for me would be the Gravity. The Cadillac escalade is too big, the vistiq doesn't have a frunk which is a huge miss. Tesla is a non starter for me as their "premium" ev's have a considerable down market feel relative to the Rivian or the Lucid. I will look at the Gravity again in a couple years, when hopefully there will be good availability of the platform.
I agree that a R1S is a top "plan B" choice. Personally, I put almost no value on the (impressive) off-road capability, which is one of the prime reasons I'm holding out for a Gravity.
I went the savagegeese route with a 2025 iX with a BW sound system. Maybe I am dead inside too?? 
I bought it mainly because of the excellent incentives and very low money factor for the leases. I wanted to get it done before the EV tax credit disappeared. It's a nice car, but not a Gravity. I will be back for the Gravity once the air lease runs out, unless Lucid starts offering pull-ahead—we will see how things evolve!
I bought it mainly because of the excellent incentives and very low money factor for the leases. I wanted to get it done before the EV tax credit disappeared. It's a nice car, but not a Gravity. I will be back for the Gravity once the air lease runs out, unless Lucid starts offering pull-ahead—we will see how things evolve!
I like a lot about the iX as well. The maximum EPA range of 324 miles put me off a bit, as I like long road trips, and want to have plenty of range to allow flexible route planning. I do see that Car and Driver said they got 290 miles out of one on their 75 mph range test, which was less of a hit on the EPA number than one might normally expect, so that's a positive sign. I'm eager to see the real-world highway-speed range tests start to appear for the Gravity.I went the savagegeese route with a 2025 iX with a BW sound system. Maybe I am dead inside too??
I bought it mainly because of the excellent incentives and very low money factor for the leases. I wanted to get it done before the EV tax credit disappeared. It's a nice car, but not a Gravity. I will be back for the Gravity once the air lease runs out, unless Lucid starts offering pull-ahead—we will see how things evolve!
I am yet to go for a long road trip but it has been easily beating the EPA in town. I am getting 3.2 to 3.4 on 22-inch wheels. BMW tend to underrate their range and they recently introduced an efficiency mode that can’t be defaulted in the US as EPA testing was done before it was available. 2025 has 105.5 KW usable battery where as 2026s reduced the buffer and made it 112+ kW. Owners forums are reporting 350 real life for pre-2026, even on 22s.
The review linked above says 380 to 400 miles. I don’t believe it yet! I do think 350 is possible based on what I am seeing. They still offer 2 years of free EA with 1000kw limit.
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EA is awful. When that’s all I could use with my Rivian all road trips were touch and go. EA was either broken or charged super slow - and locations far off in Walmart parking lots were sketchy. It’s one reason I am happy everyone is going to NACS. Just did a roadtrip in Rivian with NACS adapter and SCs were easy.
But on Plan B, sounds like it could be okay. I absolutely need a third row though. So, I wait…
But on Plan B, sounds like it could be okay. I absolutely need a third row though. So, I wait…
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EA IS awful. I'm glad someone else feels the same way. The first road trip I took with my Rivian was in '22 and EA was the main player in town. Charging was rough, especially compared to now when Rivian has plug and charge with the superchargers using an adapter or in the case of the '26s native NACS. For me the iX is a non starter because it doesn't have towing capability. I don't tow a lot, if I did I'd be looking at a GMC Sierra, but I need a vehicle that I can pull a small trailer or have a hitch mounted accessory.
Plan C: Vinfast VF9... Worth the risk?
My quick review of the Vinfast VF9, which I just Turoed for a few days. This car wasn't on my radar, but but it's a real 6-7 seat full electric that is available now... https://vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-9
Vinfast is a Vietnamese EV startup that markets itself as an upscale option at a bargain price: 4wd and 400 hp, panoramic roof, wireless carplay, heads up display and 300 miles of range all for $63k or $449 plus tax and fees for a 24 month/ 10k lease. All of which is true, but... Pros and cons:
Pro: Lots of tech for the price: a heads up display integrated with Carplay shows directions on the screen, etc. Con: it's buggy: it takes 15 seconds to boot the car, I was too tall to see the full HUD without scooching down (6'4"), the wireless phone charger didn't work, the steering wheel adjustment didn't work.
Pro: Decent battery and a real-world ~275 mile measured range at lower highway speeds. Con: Slowish "fast" charging: we saw 150 kW on EA when it worked, not yet on Tesla superchargers.
Pro: Nice ride and suspension. I preferred it to the Rivian (more road tuned, doesn't porpoise) Con: very synthetic electric power steering.
Pro: Decently quick if you're used to a Camry. Con: Doesn't feel like 400 hp, particularly if you come from electrics. Poorly calibrated throttle, especially at parking lot speeds.
Pro: 80% of the interior seems moderately up scale- not Audi or Rivian, but better than Tesla for things like dash materials, etc. Con: the other 20% lets it down- some bits feel base rental car cheap.
Pro: Looks decent outside- we were stopped by a Porsche Macan driver to ask about it. Con: Fit and finish is wanting- some plastic exterior snap bits were opening up, betraying build quality issues.
Pro: Serious passenger space, easily swallowed 4 adults and 2 kids for a 3.5 hour road trip. Con: very small luggage space- it has a frunk and under rear floor storage, but it feel 1/4 of the size of the Rivian, while cargo space behind the rear seats is tight when they are up.
Pro: Comes with a key fob. Con: needs the key fob to unlock/ lock, sometimes you need to hit the button multiple times.
Overall while this car would like to be a Lucid/ Rivian competitor it feels more like it's punching up towards GM. But it drives well enough and it's cheap enough that it'd be on my radar to lease if it met our needs better (it doesn't: not enough room for our dog behind the back seats). My big concerns would be that it'd leave us stranded due to software bugs or quality issues. And that my wife would hate it due to the software bugs. And just to be clear: it's an appliance, not a car to want.
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My quick review of the Vinfast VF9, which I just Turoed for a few days. This car wasn't on my radar, but but it's a real 6-7 seat full electric that is available now... https://vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-9
Vinfast is a Vietnamese EV startup that markets itself as an upscale option at a bargain price: 4wd and 400 hp, panoramic roof, wireless carplay, heads up display and 300 miles of range all for $63k or $449 plus tax and fees for a 24 month/ 10k lease. All of which is true, but... Pros and cons:
Pro: Lots of tech for the price: a heads up display integrated with Carplay shows directions on the screen, etc. Con: it's buggy: it takes 15 seconds to boot the car, I was too tall to see the full HUD without scooching down (6'4"), the wireless phone charger didn't work, the steering wheel adjustment didn't work.
Pro: Decent battery and a real-world ~275 mile measured range at lower highway speeds. Con: Slowish "fast" charging: we saw 150 kW on EA when it worked, not yet on Tesla superchargers.
Pro: Nice ride and suspension. I preferred it to the Rivian (more road tuned, doesn't porpoise) Con: very synthetic electric power steering.
Pro: Decently quick if you're used to a Camry. Con: Doesn't feel like 400 hp, particularly if you come from electrics. Poorly calibrated throttle, especially at parking lot speeds.
Pro: 80% of the interior seems moderately up scale- not Audi or Rivian, but better than Tesla for things like dash materials, etc. Con: the other 20% lets it down- some bits feel base rental car cheap.
Pro: Looks decent outside- we were stopped by a Porsche Macan driver to ask about it. Con: Fit and finish is wanting- some plastic exterior snap bits were opening up, betraying build quality issues.
Pro: Serious passenger space, easily swallowed 4 adults and 2 kids for a 3.5 hour road trip. Con: very small luggage space- it has a frunk and under rear floor storage, but it feel 1/4 of the size of the Rivian, while cargo space behind the rear seats is tight when they are up.
Pro: Comes with a key fob. Con: needs the key fob to unlock/ lock, sometimes you need to hit the button multiple times.
Overall while this car would like to be a Lucid/ Rivian competitor it feels more like it's punching up towards GM. But it drives well enough and it's cheap enough that it'd be on my radar to lease if it met our needs better (it doesn't: not enough room for our dog behind the back seats). My big concerns would be that it'd leave us stranded due to software bugs or quality issues. And that my wife would hate it due to the software bugs. And just to be clear: it's an appliance, not a car to want.
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Where are they serviced and how is the company capitalized? I’ve heard of it but dismissed it as I didn’t think they had any service support and have no idea who operates them (eg where they get cash…)
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VinGroup the parent to Vinfast has a market cap of over $15 billion and are sitting on over $32 billion in assets. Vinfast is one of many brands under the Vin group so they should have no trouble securing cash etc. when needed.
