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I just took delivery of a 2025 AGT, which is replacing my 2022 Audi E-tron GT. I thought it might be interesting to see how the cars compare.
My Audi is perhaps the best car I've ever owned. It is fast, nimble and great looking. When driving, I feel like I'm wearing the car rather than sitting in it. It is so much fun that it makes me drive like an a-hole. I admit it, I'm not proud of it, but if you are driving like a turtle I am going to pass you. It is typical of most German cars in that it feels fully planted on the road at all time. Very secure with very little sway, but also not harsh at all. The interior is understated, well designed and luxurious. Controls are all very well placed allowing me to keep my eyes on the road at all time.
The software is another story. It is not very good. Buggy, not robust and a source of aggravation. Lots of error messages all the time. I learned to ignore them until they went away. Occasional phantom braking on the highway. SW updates that took the dealer days to install. Pretty bad overall. But still the car was a blast to drive, so...
Why did I get an AGT? Three reasons: range, space and dealer issues. The day-to-day operating range on the car is about 200 miles (250 on 100% charge). I am charging a lot. I am also reluctant to take it on road trips because it is such a PITA to plan and execute. The few road trips I have taken produced range anxiety--a fear that is well founded.
The Audi is a little tight on space. The back seat (with glass roof) is just ok for a couple adults. My dogs don't have much room back there at all. The trunk space is meh, but the frunk is reasonably handy. Cabin storage is very limited.
The Audi dealers I have used are really bad at repairs. Simple things take days and day. More complex things take multiple trips to the dealer. Some recall repairs require the dealer to have the car before they order parts. If your part is coming from Germany, you are not going to have the car for a while. These service problems, more than anything else, caused me to dump the car.
One day when I was grousing about the service, my wife asked me why I didn't buy a different car. I told her there wasn't any other car I thought might be better. Then I though about Lucid.
I spent time on the forum and decided to lease an AGT (great deal IMO). My first impressions are very favorable. Very luxurious, powerful with a terrific suite of software. The driving experience is too new for me to say much about, other than to mention it is way different than the Audi. The car feels heavier, but is still pretty nimble. The whole braking/regen thing is waaaaaay different. With the Audi, it is recommended that you set it to coast. Regen is accomplished by braking. The mechanical brakes engage only when the car is below 5 mph--the rest of the time the motors provide the braking. I liked this a lot. The Lucid of course is completely different, and I am slowly getting used to the way it handles slowing the car through regen.
The Lucid cabin is top notch--plenty of space for everything. Creature comforts are excellent. I love the software (so far it has been perfect, but I haven't driven the car much). I apologize to you guys who are having major problems with your car, but the Lucid has already greatly exceeded my expectations. I am looking forward to getting to know this car over the next few months. I'm also excited about taking my EV on a road trip. I don't think I will ever feel like I am wearing this car, like I did with my Audi, but this is an extremely capable in every way and I look forward to my years of ownership.
TL/DR: Audi nice, Lucid nicer.
My Audi is perhaps the best car I've ever owned. It is fast, nimble and great looking. When driving, I feel like I'm wearing the car rather than sitting in it. It is so much fun that it makes me drive like an a-hole. I admit it, I'm not proud of it, but if you are driving like a turtle I am going to pass you. It is typical of most German cars in that it feels fully planted on the road at all time. Very secure with very little sway, but also not harsh at all. The interior is understated, well designed and luxurious. Controls are all very well placed allowing me to keep my eyes on the road at all time.
The software is another story. It is not very good. Buggy, not robust and a source of aggravation. Lots of error messages all the time. I learned to ignore them until they went away. Occasional phantom braking on the highway. SW updates that took the dealer days to install. Pretty bad overall. But still the car was a blast to drive, so...
Why did I get an AGT? Three reasons: range, space and dealer issues. The day-to-day operating range on the car is about 200 miles (250 on 100% charge). I am charging a lot. I am also reluctant to take it on road trips because it is such a PITA to plan and execute. The few road trips I have taken produced range anxiety--a fear that is well founded.
The Audi is a little tight on space. The back seat (with glass roof) is just ok for a couple adults. My dogs don't have much room back there at all. The trunk space is meh, but the frunk is reasonably handy. Cabin storage is very limited.
The Audi dealers I have used are really bad at repairs. Simple things take days and day. More complex things take multiple trips to the dealer. Some recall repairs require the dealer to have the car before they order parts. If your part is coming from Germany, you are not going to have the car for a while. These service problems, more than anything else, caused me to dump the car.
One day when I was grousing about the service, my wife asked me why I didn't buy a different car. I told her there wasn't any other car I thought might be better. Then I though about Lucid.
I spent time on the forum and decided to lease an AGT (great deal IMO). My first impressions are very favorable. Very luxurious, powerful with a terrific suite of software. The driving experience is too new for me to say much about, other than to mention it is way different than the Audi. The car feels heavier, but is still pretty nimble. The whole braking/regen thing is waaaaaay different. With the Audi, it is recommended that you set it to coast. Regen is accomplished by braking. The mechanical brakes engage only when the car is below 5 mph--the rest of the time the motors provide the braking. I liked this a lot. The Lucid of course is completely different, and I am slowly getting used to the way it handles slowing the car through regen.
The Lucid cabin is top notch--plenty of space for everything. Creature comforts are excellent. I love the software (so far it has been perfect, but I haven't driven the car much). I apologize to you guys who are having major problems with your car, but the Lucid has already greatly exceeded my expectations. I am looking forward to getting to know this car over the next few months. I'm also excited about taking my EV on a road trip. I don't think I will ever feel like I am wearing this car, like I did with my Audi, but this is an extremely capable in every way and I look forward to my years of ownership.
TL/DR: Audi nice, Lucid nicer.