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Tough to take any article that starts with "Jeremy Clarkson says..." seriously.
 
Bdr100 said:
Lidar does not see color, so it would not improve red light behavior.
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yes, but the lights on a traffic light are in a known order (red is top then yellow and green is on the bottom). So as long as the position of the light is known the software should be able to figure out if the light is red or not. I'm assuming that FSD for model 3/y/x/s is able to handle red light detection so why would this be a problem with Cybercabs?
 
ke2 said:
yes, but the lights on a traffic light are in a known order (red is top then yellow and green is on the bottom). So as long as the position of the light is known the software should be able to figure out if the light is red or not. I'm assuming that FSD for model 3/y/x/s is able to handle red light detection so why would this be a problem with Cybercabs?
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LiDAR does not see the light either, it is the wrong frequency. The only thing LiDAR sees is pixels showing the reflection and distance of the traffic light. Traffic light interpretations is best done by optical cameras.
 
ke2 said:
yes, but the lights on a traffic light are in a known order (red is top then yellow and green is on the bottom). So as long as the position of the light is known the software should be able to figure out if the light is red or not. I'm assuming that FSD for model 3/y/x/s is able to handle red light detection so why would this be a problem with Cybercabs?
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Yes, but light recognition is not an area where LIDAR might have an advantage over camera.

All these proclamations that the LIDAR will make the Lucid ADAS a better/safer system vs FSD are all speculation. The only high mileage tested LIDAR based ADAS in US is Waymo which uses a much more robust/expensive LIDAR vs what is on Lucid. Many of us Lucid owners paid a handsome amount for DDP2 with LIDAR on the Gravity in the hopes that it will give us the promised safer FSD alternative, but we will not know for at least another year (or probably longer as improvements are gradually rolled out.)

As for LIDAR on existing Airs with DDP, those cars are not any better and most would say significantly worse than current hardware 4 Teslas that only have cameras. Current spec Airs with Lidar will never get to the level of current Teslas. Sensors appear to not be as important as processing power and software.
 
Bdr100 said:
Sensors appear to not be as important as processing power and software.
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This right here is really where it is at. Software was always going to come into play. The LIDR/RADAR/Camera/... is never going to be able to make the decision, software behind the sensor is going to be making any decisions and currently Tesla is well ahead of anyone else in that field (for consumer cars). As to wether Tesla is "doing the right thing" with regards to safety that's a different conversation.
 
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