Robotaxis prediction

[HC_79]

This is plainly false.

Much of your analysis is also inaccurate.

Source: I use Waymo ~daily and work at Google.

They’re an “FSD is better than everything else” fan and cherry picks information to make Waymo look poor compared to Tesla. Yet, they completely ignore the fact that Waymo has been doing DRIVERLESS trips for years now! They lost me when they said some fool is watching traffic cameras to determine how many Tesla Robotaxis are on the road compared to Waymo. Real solid fact reporting right there!

 

[mobada]

I am not sure what your source for this is but I see Waymos operating in the rain in Phoenix all the time. Not that we get that much rain here. Halting service during flash floods actually seems prudent.

This is plainly false.

Much of your analysis is also inaccurate.

Source: I use Waymo ~daily and work at Google.

Waymo literally does not run in rain anymore. You are in california.

In all the other metros (texas, florida, georgia, etc.) they literally do not operate even in light rain/sprinkling weather

This is a recent change after a waymo got washed away for 4 days in san antonio and san antonio service was paused for 5 months. It seems to have started around late june, early july and happen still to this day.

There are some instances recently in austin where waymo was not out, yet robotaxi was operating and the rain was only light at best

Waymo has two separate software for remote ops. They have one which can move the cars by hinting where the car should go. That software seems to require that the car think that the hinted path is clear, meaning a remote operator cannot direct the car to run over something in its path. This is why waymo gets stuck in flood waters and can't move.

Waymo also has a remote driving function which can move the car at low speed using keyboard/mouse. Waymo likes to claim they do not remote drive the cars, so they are too proud to ever use this feature. Instead they'd rather rescue every stuck vehicle than do this.

 

[mobada]

They’re an “FSD is better than everything else” fan and cherry picks information to make Waymo look poor compared to Tesla. Yet, they completely ignore the fact that Waymo has been doing DRIVERLESS trips for years now! They lost me when they said some fool is watching traffic cameras to determine how many Tesla Robotaxis are on the road compared to Waymo. Real solid fact reporting right there!

Tesla reported driverless miles for that week and it was 558K miles. At 100 miles per vehicle per day that puts them at 797 vehicles

Even with 150 miles per day (I doubt it's ever that high) it's still over 500 vehicles and definitely ahead of waymo in Austin

 

[HC_79]

Tesla reported driverless miles for that week and it was 558K miles. At 100 miles per vehicle per day that puts them at 797 vehicles

Even with 150 miles per day (I doubt it's ever that high) it's still over 500 vehicles and definitely ahead of waymo in Austin

You keep using Austin for your argument knowing full well Waymo operates in many more areas than Austin.

 

[mobada]

You keep using Austin for your argument knowing full well Waymo operates in many more areas than Austin.

Because it demonstrates tesla can operate in a single city with a high volume of vehicles. What people claimed was not possible.

It was originally speculated (on teslamotorsforum among others) that tesla would achieve 500-750 vehicles by expanding to as many cities as possible and operating nearly nonexistent services (20 or 30 vehicles) with support, remote ops, etc.

The alarming thing is the rate of progress for tesla driving is seemingly very fast.

Also by compariso if you take a city like metro atlanta, tesla has 10 service centers. Between that and 700 superchargers you don't need a depot. Now repeat for every city in america.

Tesla also has 2-3 days of driving range. Waymo has 1/2 day at most

 

[HC_79]

Because it demonstrates tesla can operate in a single city with a high volume of vehicles. What people claimed was not possible.

It was originally speculated (on teslamotorsforum among others) that tesla would achieve 500-750 vehicles by expanding to as many cities as possible and operating nearly nonexistent services (20 or 30 vehicles) with support, remote ops, etc.

Every single post of yours relates back to Tesla either it be robotaxis or the roadster.

You’re in the wrong forum

 

[mobada]

Every single post of yours relates back to Tesla either it be robotaxis or the roadster.

You’re in the wrong forum

your other problem is that waymo has been operating for years but seemingly has issues that have not been fixed in over 5 years of operation. Seemingly no improvement in some metrics.

if you take a city like metro atlanta, tesla has 10 service centers. Between that and 700 superchargers you don't need a depot. Now repeat for every city in america.

Tesla also has 2-3 days of driving range. Waymo has 1/2 day at most

That's why comparing the two companies is not really fair

 

[Aka-none]

your other problem is that waymo has been operating for years but seemingly has issues that have not been fixed in over 5 years of operation. Seemingly no improvement in some metrics.

if you take a city like metro atlanta, tesla has 10 service centers. Between that and 700 superchargers you don't need a depot. Now repeat for every city in america.

Tesla also has 2-3 days of driving range. Waymo has 1/2 day at most

That's why comparing the two companies is not really fair

Well good bye

 

[Adnillien]

Waymo literally does not run in rain anymore. You are in california.

I am not in California so I can say for sure that your data is not correct.

 

[BS8899]

I am not in California so I can say for sure that your data is not correct.

I am an Arizona resident. I also have a 2nd home in Marin County. I was an on-the-road eyewitness of Waymo's embarrassing episode in SF last December.

That said, I think some people are generalizing that Waymo cannot operate in rainy weather. Thta's simply not true.

In the December 2025 episode, yes, there was heavy rain in San Francisco. And yes, there were many Waymos "stranded". However, the reason why the Waymos were stranded was NOT because of the rain. The weather in SF that evening resulted in widespread power outages. Many traffic lights were out. Hence, when the Waymos approach a traffic intersection and the traffic lights were out, Waymo's (then) protocol was to message the control room and ask for a manual override before they proceed. That evening, there were many Waymos on the roads and many power outages. The manual override protocol was simply overwhelmed. The majority of the stranded Waymos I saw on that day were at the intersections with traffic light outages,

I don't know anything about the Texas episodes and I will not comment.

Waymo has a fine safety record in the Phoenix area. During the "monsoon season", Phoenix experience flooded roads as well. Flooded roads can be a hazard to all cars, including autonomous cars. It is not a Tesla vs Waymo issue.