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Which adapters do you actually use?

Considering the price of the car, and I didn't want to be tied, I just ended up buying both adapters. I tested out a Tesla Supercharger just to make sure it worked, and it was easy; plugged in and it just started charging.

Sure, I'll aim for CCS, but it's nice to know that I can basically charge anywhere.
 
Aka-none said:
Of course there are chargers using nacs that are more than 50kw, IIRC
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Yes, you're correct. There are currently seven Tesla superchargers in the country that offer both V4 power cabinets and stalls and thus could offer more than 50kW for my Lucid Air Touring. The closest is eight hours away from me. If many more true V4 stations are built, then buying a NACS to CCS1 adapter might be worth it for me. But even then, there will almost certainly be many more CCS1 options available (EA, EVgo, Ionna, etc) so I doubt it.
 
Well here is a reason to get the NACS to CCS1. Last night I made my first trip to the fast chargers near my house. Six CCS1 stations with three unattended cars plugged in and a wait for the other chargers.
Behind these chargers was a row of perhaps 20 tesla super chargers that was perhaps half full.
I’ll likely wait a bit before getting the second adapter as I will only be using the fast chargers for trips once my wall unit gets installed in two weeks or so. But it does show the use case for having one in the car.
 
Golfhack said:
Yes, you're correct. There are currently seven Tesla superchargers in the country that offer both V4 power cabinets and stalls and thus could offer more than 50kW for my Lucid Air Touring. The closest is eight hours away from me. If many more true V4 stations are built, then buying a NACS to CCS1 adapter might be worth it for me. But even then, there will almost certainly be many more CCS1 options available (EA, EVgo, Ionna, etc) so I doubt it.
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Noob here - and sorry for the very basic question- but are all other Tesla chargers throttled to 50kwh? That would certainly impact my calculus
 
Golfhack said:
Yes, you're correct. There are currently seven Tesla superchargers in the country that offer both V4 power cabinets and stalls and thus could offer more than 50kW for my Lucid Air Touring. The closest is eight hours away from me. If many more true V4 stations are built, then buying a NACS to CCS1 adapter might be worth it for me. But even then, there will almost certainly be many more CCS1 options available (EA, EVgo, Ionna, etc) so I doubt it.
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Rhinoww said:
Well here is a reason to get the NACS to CCS1. Last night I made my first trip to the fast chargers near my house. Six CCS1 stations with three unattended cars plugged in and a wait for the other chargers.
Behind these chargers was a row of perhaps 20 tesla super chargers that was perhaps half full.
I’ll likely wait a bit before getting the second adapter as I will only be using the fast chargers for trips once my wall unit gets installed in two weeks or so. But it does show the use case for having one in the car.
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Exactly why I went ahead and purchased A2Z NACS to CC! adapter. For years I assumed I'd never need one and therefore didn't purchase one when I had my Equinox EV. But now that I see iONNA and Walmart have both configurations onsite, I figured it would be prudent to keep one in the car in the event I arrive at a station and all the CCS1 are taken but NACS are available. I've seen it happen in reverse at an iONNA. All the NACS stalls were taken, so a Kia EV6 used is CCS1 to NACS adapter to use a CCS1 stall.
Rhinoww said:
Noob here - and sorry for the very basic question- but are all other Tesla chargers throttled to 50kwh? That would certainly impact my calculus
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I've often wondered if iONNA and Walmart NACS chargers operate at different current than Tesla NACS chargers. It's the current specification that has Tesla chargers limiting the charge rate on Lucids. Both iONNA and Walmart use Alpitronic chargers. Walmart also uses ABB.
 
Rhinoww said:
Noob here - and sorry for the very basic question- but are all other Tesla chargers throttled to 50kwh? That would certainly impact my calculus
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martinjlm said:
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I've often wondered if iONNA and Walmart NACS chargers operate at different current than Tesla NACS chargers. It's the current specification that has Tesla chargers limiting the charge rate on Lucids. Both iONNA and Walmart use Alpitronic chargers. Walmart also uses ABB.
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Guess if I was truly interested I would just ask my friendly local AI bot, right?

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So it seems that using iONNA / Walmart NACS chargers should yield similar results as using Tesla V4, and BETTER results than using Tesla V3 and lower.
 
martinjlm said:
Guess if I was truly interested I would just ask my friendly local AI bot, right?
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The issue is voltage, not current. Lucid Air cars' charging circuitry only supports 50kW of power when stepping up a 450V charging connection to 800-900V to match the battery potential.
No step-up is needed on a 920+ volt charging station, so the 50kW limit is no longer a cap.

Gravity vehicles have a more powerful step-up circuit that is capable of maxing out a 450V station at its 500 amp limit, or about 225kW
 
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