What does Lucid stand for?

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I see efficiency, space, performance, handling.

Social media sees significant service delays, key issues, Fisker comparisons. They have the best EV tech, but Rawlinson and Winterof couldn’t capitalize on it.

How does Napoli fix this? Or does he even understand what’s going on? I hope he wakes up every morning and goes through this forum.
 
I see efficiency, space, performance, handling.

Social media sees significant service delays, key issues, Fisker comparisons. They have the best EV tech, but Rawlinson and Winterof couldn’t capitalize on it.

How does Napoli fix this? Or does he even understand what’s going on? I hope he wakes up every morning and goes through this forum.
Lucid has some of the best EV engineering IDEAS.

The issue with Lucid is its EXECUTION. Execution is not just launching a product. It is about excelling in the marathon of working out all the bugs, service, reliability, and generating/preserving value for your investors. "Investors" is not just PIF. It is all the car owners and stock investors.

Lucid needs to transform itself from "we have the best ideas" to returning the best equity to its stakeholders.
 
When the Gravity first came out, I was pretty sure Lucid was going for GOAT (Gravity, Ocean, Air, and something with a T), to spite their competitor. Then the company pivoted and now I see Lucid as CAGEY (Cosmos, Air, Gravity, Earth, and something with a Y)
 
Lucid has some of the best EV engineering IDEAS.

The issue with Lucid is its EXECUTION. Execution is not just launching a product. It is about excelling in the marathon of working out all the bugs, service, reliability, and generating/preserving value for your investors. "Investors" is not just PIF. It is all the car owners and stock investors.

Lucid needs to transform itself from "we have the best ideas" to returning the best equity to its stakeholders.
I think many of their engineering ‘ideas’ were extremely well executed in their cars. Best in class in most of those areas too. People on these forums have very few if any issues with the performance or drive quality or handling of these cars. It’s why we still own them. But I agree execution of software and customer experience is sorely lacking.
 
They got themselves into a vicious circle, stock goes down, people worry about survival, poor sales, stock goes down. And threat of more dilution doesn’t help.
 
If you listen to their investor day presentation, Lucid is about profitability. Basically everything they do efficiency (both drivetrain and packaging, and all the engineering associated with said efficiency gains) wise is about being able to reduce costs to return value to their investors. But all that talk is just to reassure investors. What they need are customers. The only way to get customers is to release cheaper cars. It's a fantasy to think Lucid will ever be able to have the margins of Ferrari.

What they advertise to prospective customers is far less clear. The 50k mainstream midsize SUV market is much different than the 100k luxury sedan and SUV market. This is even murkier in the EU market where Chinese EVs are available. They talk about efficiency but if someone looks up testing they'd find Edmund's and YouTubers like State of Charge and NotchEV showing that the Gravity not being able to hit the advertised range. That slide in their investor presentation says they can hit 300 miles with a 69kwh battery so they better hit that number in the real world if they advertise it. Otherwise, what's the point of the weirder looking Cosmos if the blocky Rivian R2 can come close to matching it?

Handling and performance are almost meaningless in this segment. Everything is already "good enough." Reliability is going to be everything, especially with the already bad wait times at the relatively few service centers dotted across the country (and world). Cosmos has to be bulletproof when its released, and it's already going to be behind if it takes until 2H27 for any real production to happen. People who might have bought one will already be in an R2, EX60, iX3, GLC, Model Y EV6/Ioniq 5, Mach E, id4, and whatever else I'm forgetting. Plus, all the brands that I'm not familiar with in the EU.

Anecdotally, I have relatives and co-workers who are all EV households but when I bring up Lucid, they either just chuckle and call it a failing company or have never even heard of it. The Cosmos launch essentially needs to be perfect.

But since this is the Investor's Forum, ask yourself this: What is Lucid's moat? And how deep/wide is said moat?
 
If you listen to their investor day presentation, Lucid is about profitability. Basically everything they do efficiency (both drivetrain and packaging, and all the engineering associated with said efficiency gains) wise is about being able to reduce costs to return value to their investors. But all that talk is just to reassure investors. What they need are customers. The only way to get customers is to release cheaper cars. It's a fantasy to think Lucid will ever be able to have the margins of Ferrari.

What they advertise to prospective customers is far less clear. The 50k mainstream midsize SUV market is much different than the 100k luxury sedan and SUV market. This is even murkier in the EU market where Chinese EVs are available. They talk about efficiency but if someone looks up testing they'd find Edmund's and YouTubers like State of Charge and NotchEV showing that the Gravity not being able to hit the advertised range. That slide in their investor presentation says they can hit 300 miles with a 69kwh battery so they better hit that number in the real world if they advertise it. Otherwise, what's the point of the weirder looking Cosmos if the blocky Rivian R2 can come close to matching it?

Handling and performance are almost meaningless in this segment. Everything is already "good enough." Reliability is going to be everything, especially with the already bad wait times at the relatively few service centers dotted across the country (and world). Cosmos has to be bulletproof when its released, and it's already going to be behind if it takes until 2H27 for any real production to happen. People who might have bought one will already be in an R2, EX60, iX3, GLC, Model Y EV6/Ioniq 5, Mach E, id4, and whatever else I'm forgetting. Plus, all the brands that I'm not familiar with in the EU.

Anecdotally, I have relatives and co-workers who are all EV households but when I bring up Lucid, they either just chuckle and call it a failing company or have never even heard of it. The Cosmos launch essentially needs to be perfect.

But since this is the Investor's Forum, ask yourself this: What is Lucid's moat? And how deep/wide is said moat?
And then they rattle off some crap about robo taxis. These guys ain’t launching a robo taxi come on.
 
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I thought we were going for anagrams
Maybe Luxurious Unique Clever Innovative Dynamic?
Or how about Long- range Uncompromising Cutting -edge Intelligent Driving?
 
And then they rattle off some crap about robo taxis. These guys ain’t launching a robo taxi come on.
They are making good -progress with Nuro. It will of course be geofenced. The big deal is the collaboration with Uber, Netflix of taxis. They will have the logistics easily figured out. And they will be maintained by Hertz.
 
I thought we were going for anagrams
Maybe Luxurious Unique Clever Innovative Dynamic?
Or how about Long- range Uncompromising Cutting -edge Intelligent Driving?
Life Under Constant Inconveniences... Defeated
 
When the Gravity first came out, I was pretty sure Lucid was going for GOAT (Gravity, Ocean, Air, and something with a T), to spite their competitor. Then the company pivoted and now I see Lucid as CAGEY (Cosmos, Air, Gravity, Earth, and something with a Y)
GOAT= Gravity Ocean Air Terra 🌎
 
What Silvio needs to focus on:
1) Getting Gravity software stable now.
2) Fixing fob issues across both Air and Gravity.
3) Adding more service centers or expanding existing ones.
4) Ensuring midsize software is nearly bulletproof by the time deliveries to customers begin.

1, 2 and 3 are having an immediate impact on customer satisfaction, reputation and sales. 4 is absolutely critical.

As mentioned by others, reliability is key as you move down in price. Many people with Air/Gravity have multiple cars/the financial wherewithal to navigate situations where they cannot get their car in drive, open doors, etc. Cosmos customers will not have that patience and Lucid will very quickly go the way of Fisker if Cosmos is released with issues.
 
GOAT= Gravity Ocean Air Terra 🌎
It was speculated a few years back that they were going for AGES (Air, Gravity, Earth, Space) listed in order on the website. Now with cosmos in the mix, I'm not so sure.

EDIT: maybe now they're going for CAGES because all the investors profits are locked away and management threw away the key 🤣
 
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