New software update for Gravity - 3.5

[RajD]

Plausible scenario:

1. All signals show “go.” Internal testing passed. Make the release announcement.
2. Start rollout on Thursday, as announced, to a very limited audience. Possibly early testers with special relationships to Lucid with a direct feedback channel. Monitor telemetry closely. Staged rollouts is a best practice within the software industry.
3. While waiting for a “go” signal from the initial test group to continue the rollout on Friday, someone raises an alarm.
4. No one knows whether the problem is serious enough to stop the release. Mad scramble by the software team to start investigating the problem. No announcement is made, because there is not enough information to make a plan, let alone announce it.
5. Software team works on the weekend. Can we let the bug pass? Can we make a quick fix?
6. On Monday, execs want answers. They know Lucid’s reputation is on the line. They need to make a call. By the end of the day, the software team decides the release needs to be halted.
7. Announcement made by the end of the business day.

It’s easy to be an armchair quarterback for those who have never coached in their life. It’s easy to yell, “that was such a stupid pass, you shouldn’t have thrown that interception.“ As much as we complain on the sidelines, nobody feels worse than the actual players in th

My suspension adjusts with the iOS app.

Mine does too. Need to be next to car with doors closed.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

My suspension adjusts with the iOS app.

Hmm. Mine never has. Whether I am next to car, in cars away from car. But I also see no real use for it so haven’t complained much…

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

OK, so we aren’t getting the update - good for Lucid. Now I don’t have to wait on this forum looking for info. What am I going to do with all this TIME?


Think I’ll go for a nice long drive in a truly fantastic car! Hope to see you all on the road.

Woah, woah, woah. While we shouldn’t do it on this thread, there’s plenty to complain about or be anxious about. Don’t just chill when you could be nervous about so many things regarding the Gravity.

 

[nbg207]

Hi, everyone.

I wanted to share a brief update regarding the 3.5 software release.

Based on early learnings, our software engineers are doing some fine-tuning before we proceed with broader deployment. Once this revision has been completed and validated, we will deploy the release to the wider owner base.

We appreciate your patience and look forward to sharing these new features with you.

Marqie

Thank you for the update on the update!

 

[hwy17er]

All this may be reflective of how worn down everyone is with having to deal with all the various SW issues since the release of Gravity.

Lucid made the decision to release the vehicle before they had the SW really "ready" for public consumption and that's on them...
but we chose to try out a first model year vehicle and that's on us. Guess I got lucky ordering a color they didn't end up producing and can't re-order 'til the next model year so I am experiencing all of the SW angst and pleasure of driving/ownership only vicariously through this forum but I do feel everyone's frustration and also see the joy many owners have driving such a technologically advanced car.

 

[DDX]

Hi, everyone.

I wanted to share a brief update regarding the 3.5 software release.

Based on early learnings, our software engineers are doing some fine-tuning before we proceed with broader deployment. Once this revision has been completed and validated, we will deploy the release to the wider owner base.

We appreciate your patience and look forward to sharing these new features with you.

Marqie

@margie, Thanks for the update regarding 3.5. Just to provide some context and a more positive perspective, I had the pleasure of driving our Gravity GT over 800 miles last week on a road trip. With the latest update 3.4.4, we had only one issue with the SW - SiriusXM required re-sign-on and reboot just once. I was really impressed with the Navigation feature compared to what we currently have in our Air Touring. Apple CarPlay would have been a "nice to have" but I basically didn't need it as all the existing Lucid apps worked just fine. The car drove and rode better than any car I have ever owned (several Bimmers included). We packed luggage for 4 including golf clubs, cooler, groceries, etc for a 7 day stay. It all fit!! I look forward to 3.5 when it is ready but not frustrated with the "delay" as what we currently have is by far better than anything else on the market. Take your time to get it right...I ain't goin' nowhere

 

[Kairide]

what we currently have is by far better than anything else on the market.

I understand the Gravity is a great car to drive, but come on. We’re talking software, which this thread is about. There is no way anyone can honestly say this. We all know who the unquestionable EV software leader is, it’s not Lucid.

 

[tmichael]

I understand the Gravity is a great car to drive, but come on. We’re talking software, which this thread is about. There is no way anyone can honestly say this. We all know who the unquestionable EV software leader is, it’s not Lucid.

Fisker!!!

 

[prgarg]

Fisker!!!

The Uber Oceans here in NYC have CarPlay, so ...

 

[TahoeMichael]

This is an unfair statement. I get that Air owners are frustrated to not have seen anything major in months but it's not like Lucid is just sitting on its ass doing nothing. They're working on UX 3.0 which from my understanding required a whole code rewrite for the Air. That can't happen overnight and I can understand why the Air is kind of in maintenance mode until it's released. No point writing new features into redundant code when a new version is a few months away.

I've been enthusiastic about the notion that Lucid was working to get Air onto UX 3.0, and that would also power the coming mid-market vehicles. Having a software platform spanning all vehicles seems like it enables the software team to provide updates for the whole product line with the least possible effort. The investor day presentation causes me to wonder about unification however, given the discussion of UX 4 for Cosmos.

 

[HC_79]

I've been enthusiastic about the notion that Lucid was working to get Air onto UX 3.0, and that would also power the coming mid-market vehicles. Having a software platform spanning all vehicles seems like it enables the software team to provide updates for the whole product line with the least possible effort. The investor day presentation causes me to wonder about unification however, given the discussion of UX 4 for Cosmos.

I agree about UX 4.0 and seems completely opposite to how Lucid sold the new UX 3.0 software stack when they said that earth at the time wouldn’t see the same launch issues as Gravity due to it sharing the same stack.

Now it seems Gravity won’t even get UX 4.0 and let’s be honest, it’s missing a bunch of stuff Lucid promised and they’ve already got the new UX lined up to move on with. Was I expecting UX 6.0 to be on Gravity? No, but I did expect to see UX 4.0 and maybe, just maybe seeing UX 5.0 before the hardware became tapped out.

Lucid is fence sitting. They’re not 100% like a traditional automaker where what you buy is what you’re stuck with from day one but they’re certainly not following the same path as Tesla and Rivian.

 

[Bobby]

I've been enthusiastic about the notion that Lucid was working to get Air onto UX 3.0, and that would also power the coming mid-market vehicles. Having a software platform spanning all vehicles seems like it enables the software team to provide updates for the whole product line with the least possible effort. The investor day presentation causes me to wonder about unification however, given the discussion of UX 4 for Cosmos.

I agree in what I’d really like to see is them fit the upper dashboard from the Gravity to the next generation Air. I think that would be a real upgrade to the interior. Of course there would be a bit of programming involved due to the steering wheel blocking part of it, but I think it could work, especially the right side that gives much more room due to the more squarish nature of the top edge as it tapers down.

 

[tmichael]

I agree in what I’d really like to see is them fit the upper dashboard from the Gravity to the next generation Air. I think that would be a real upgrade to the interior. Of course there would be a bit of programming involved due to the steering wheel blocking part of it, but I think it could work, especially the right side that gives much more room due to the more squarish nature of the top edge as it tapers down.

Plus, if we ever get video capability to spend time while charging, the landscape orientation makes more sense. After our MY experience, watching a video in the Polestar 3 portrait screen is like watching a video on an iPhone without turning it sideways.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I agree in what I’d really like to see is them fit the upper dashboard from the Gravity to the next generation Air. I think that would be a real upgrade to the interior. Of course there would be a bit of programming involved due to the steering wheel blocking part of it, but I think it could work, especially the right side that gives much more room due to the more squarish nature of the top edge as it tapers down.

I don’t think there’s ever going to be a “next generation” air. Has Lucid said there will be? Feels like it will slowly fade like Model S if the midsize is successful. If midsize isn’t successful, there won’t be a Lucid.

That said, Tesla do modestly upgrade the S over time…

 

[HC_79]

I don’t think there’s ever going to be a “next generation” air. Has Lucid said there will be? Feels like it will slowly fade like Model S if the midsize is successful. If midsize isn’t successful, there won’t be a Lucid.

That said, Tesla do modestly upgrade the S over time…

Will it get a major overhaul? Probably not, but they do need to keep it fresh and the simplest thing would be to replace the screens, steering wheel and DreamDrive hardware to match Gravity.

In a perfect world it would be good for it to get the boost functionality that Gravity has on 500V chargers but that may be more costly than it’s worth.

 

[RandomDesign]

I don’t think there’s ever going to be a “next generation” air. Has Lucid said there will be? Feels like it will slowly fade like Model S if the midsize is successful. If midsize isn’t successful, there won’t be a Lucid.

That said, Tesla do modestly upgrade the S over time…

The investor day slides talked about a MY2028 refresh for Air.

 

[borski]

I understand the Gravity is a great car to drive, but come on. We’re talking software, which this thread is about. There is no way anyone can honestly say this. We all know who the unquestionable EV software leader is, it’s not Lucid.

The only true generalization like this is that generalizations like this are never true.

 

[The_Don]

I agree about UX 4.0 and seems completely opposite to how Lucid sold the new UX 3.0 software stack when they said that earth at the time wouldn’t see the same launch issues as Gravity due to it sharing the same stack.

Now it seems Gravity won’t even get UX 4.0 and let’s be honest, it’s missing a bunch of stuff Lucid promised and they’ve already got the new UX lined up to move on with. Was I expecting UX 6.0 to be on Gravity? No, but I did expect to see UX 4.0 and maybe, just maybe seeing UX 5.0 before the hardware became tapped out.

Lucid is fence sitting. They’re not 100% like a traditional automaker where what you buy is what you’re stuck with from day one but they’re certainly not following the same path as Tesla and Rivian.

Can anybody point to when they said Gravity won't receive UX 4.0? That's not something I heard.

 

[HC_79]

Can anybody point to when they said Gravity won't receive UX 4.0? That's not something I heard.

Someone asked it at last week's Investor Day and Lucid said it wasn't.

 

[Bdr100]

I agree about UX 4.0 and seems completely opposite to how Lucid sold the new UX 3.0 software stack when they said that earth at the time wouldn’t see the same launch issues as Gravity due to it sharing the same stack.

Now it seems Gravity won’t even get UX 4.0 and let’s be honest, it’s missing a bunch of stuff Lucid promised and they’ve already got the new UX lined up to move on with. Was I expecting UX 6.0 to be on Gravity? No, but I did expect to see UX 4.0 and maybe, just maybe seeing UX 5.0 before the hardware became tapped out.

Lucid is fence sitting. They’re not 100% like a traditional automaker where what you buy is what you’re stuck with from day one but they’re certainly not following the same path as Tesla and Rivian.

I think people need to stop overthinking things and assuming that UX 4.0 will be a significant upgrade over UX 3.0. I see two key issues that would “possibly require” a different UX for Cosmos. The first is that Cosmos will only have a single large upper display. No lower display. Remember that one of the key reasons for switching to UX 3 from UX 2 was to allow greater flexibility of how the upper and lower displays could be modified and used interchangeably. There was also mention of Cosmos going to display control of AC vents (no manual vent control.) The other possible reason could be the planned inclusion of Level 4 ADAS in the future. Not a programmer here, but just hypothesizing.