Ten Gravity Compromises

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Forgetting about software bugs for a minute (Yeah, it's hard to do, I know), here are the compromises we've had to live with now owning a Gravity for 5 weeks and 1800 miles:

1) Wide "A" pillar creates front blind spots on turns. Taking narrow, curvy mountain roads every day I drive makes me more sensitive to this, but it's real. Even our Model X was better, but our old BMW X5s were far better, if only because they oriented the A pillar to have the smallest width of the cross-section facing the driver at an angle.

2) Rear center mirror doesn't have an camera-view screen option. More and more cars are including this feature, and a "Compromise Nothing" should also have it.

3) Top of doors are too high, bottom of doors are too low:
The too-high tops of the doors hurts visibility to the sides of the vehicle and we're still concerned about hitting curbs while maneuvering in parking lots.
The too-low bottoms of the doors means hitting curbs when you open them is a real issue. We've taken to having the car auto raise on Park to its highest position, which seems a OK work-around if you don't mind the car looking silly while parked, but it is a compromise.

4) Rear windows don't roll down all the way. This despite the doors having so much vertical height.

5) Rear hatch lid is both too low when open (head bumping), and is too tall so you have to back up every time you open it from the outside. A two-piece tailgate down with window up would be better on both accounts (X5 has this). That two-piece design is also great when you have bikes on the rear hitch mount.

6) No foot wave or even stand in front still for a few seconds to make the trunk open.

7) Rear hatch opens/closes too slowly.

8) Doors are not electrically operable. Not just the Model X now, other cars have doors that operate with motors and do things like auto-close when you step on the brake, or auto open on Park, or open from the keyfob.

9) No ride height rememberance. The Model X would let you geo-fence changes to ride height, which is useful if you have a steep driveway transistion at home or regularly travel some really rough roads, etc.

10) The sliding tray in the center console doesn't slide well. It's a plastic tray that slides some felt protrusions. It is hard to push/pull, but I suspect if Lucid made it slide easier, it would slide by itself during spirited driving. So, some compromise here that should be solved.

We really like our Gravity, especially compared to our Model Xs, but it's not a "Compromise Nothing" vehicle experience, even if all the software bugs were fixed.

Bonus item: Why just the one ocean meditation (or whatever it's called) for vibes? It's really cool, but there should be a half-dozen different ones.
 
We really like our Gravity, especially compared to our Model Xs, but it's not a "Compromise Nothing" vehicle experience, even if all the software bugs were fixed.
Well said, exactly my situation/feelings
 
I agree that there are some frustrating items in your list. Especially the seemingly low quality motors used on the second row seats, the frunk and trunk and the windows.

I do think it is important to remember that "compromise nothing" is a marketing phrase, not a promise. We can expect to compromise nothing in a Rolls Royce that we specified the custom color, wheels, choice of woods and leathers and what color the umbrella in the door should be, but in a vehicle designed for mass production at accessible retail pricing, we have to expect decisions made by other people (the manufacturer) on our behalf.

I think we can all agree the vehicle is unique and for one or a thousand reasons, we chose to buy. Some of the items noted are there because they couldn't have done the design the way it is or because the design dictated compromises. A couple cases in point:

They chose the A-pillar to maintain its "robust" (couldn't help it) look right into the cantrail. It was an exterior design decision, that impacted what some may see as a negative from an interior visual standpoint. It seems designers had pretty free reign - hence the larger rear wheels in all wheel packages. That was stated as a pure design decision. All looks and no engineering in that decision.

I certainly agree the doors are designed huge! I'd rather rest my arm on top of the window sill, however won't be doing that in this car. Again, design came into play. They were trying to minimize the greenhouse and more importantly differentiate from the bubble look that Tesla X has - like it had a glass bubble canopy placed on top of the body. Almost like they wanted it to look like it had been "chopped", like the modified roadsters of yesteryear. Think what the interior would feel like if the roof wasn't glass!

The low doors are a nod to modern door design. More and more designs are trying to get rid of side facias and extend the doors down to bottom of the side. There are advantages of no panel gaps or unintended sight lines breaking up the side view - plus the very practical aspect that those of us who drive in dirtier parts of the country, with rain, snow and muddy conditions, do not put dirt on our pants when we get out of the car. The door panel extends below where your pant leg might rub against an exposed part of the body, hence no dirty pants.

Lastly, the rear windows aren't limited by the height of the door, but any intrusion of the door handle and wheel well into the area where a window might go down into the door. Lucid chose to keep it a one piece rear window, without multiple panels - the window can only go down to where the rear wheel infringes on the door. Lucid actually made it past the door handle and was only limited by the wheel well intrusion. Chevy chose to make a shorter length window and fill the portion that couldn't go down with non-moveable windows.

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just adding my two cents - spent a fair time around GM designers during my life.

Sorry for the long diatribe - it's early and too much time on my hands.
 
Sorry, "dialog", not "diatribe"
 
I do think it is important to remember that "compromise nothing" is a marketing phrase […]
Exactly. Everything is a compromise at the end of the day. We are constrained by physics, time, costs, practicality, aesthetics, etc. The Gravity has flaws for sure, but is still the best vehicles in its class IMHO (or will be once software is made more robust).
 
The door kills me. Imagine not having air suspension and being able to raise the car.
 
"Lucid Motors...Compromise Nothing....well somethings...ok a lot actually...but it drives great!"
 
I came from a Refreshed Model X to a 2026 Gravity, and of course we will feel the compromise, especially on the software side (even in Gravity’s 3.4.1) which is the strongest point of Tesla, but handling the Gravity it feels much better than the X, and also how good it breaks compared to the Model X.

Unlucky for me, the software has been a total mess on my Gravity, ruining my short experience completely (less than 40 days of ownership). Even with the latest version, I still have major issues which stopped me from recommending the car to prevent anybody from getting a Gravity. I’m beyond frustrated, but the car handles amazingly well.

Is it enough for me? Not sure, but the compromise is nothing killing me right now.
 
Coming from a 2014 Model S, I test drove Gravity GT and refreshed Model X multiple times each, trying to decide on my next vehicle. Don't need a 3rd row (just space to take 3 passengers several times per month) and wanted a higher driving position (not another sedan).

Liked the Gravity so much last November that I put a deposit down. The interior fit and finish and quiet cabin, along with the promise of that super-wide screen and NACS connector, made a pretty compelling impression. I wanted a light interior color, but I heard so many bad things about durability of Lucid's Purluxe that I chose the least-worst leather option (Ojai) along with Lunar Titanium (listed as "winter availability"), which I figured would give me time to decide if the known software issues and viability of Lucid (losing money on every vehicle they sell) would change my mind.

In the end I ended up with a Model X because I decided the daily touch points I am used to in a Tesla outweighed the current state of Gravity and what it might become over time.

Here are the pros and cons that helped me make my final decision.

Gravity Pros:

* Super quiet / refined ride, elegant interior
* Amazing stereo system, especially with TIDAL content
* Faster NACS charging (but unable to use the more geographically remote, earlier version Tesla superchargers)
* Interior packaging -- it's incredible how much room they have created given the outside car dimensions, especially if you want or need comfort for 3rd row passengers
* Sanctuary mode (and what it could become) quite compelling

Gravity Cons:

* Navigation -- Here maps not in the same league as Tesla nav + Google maps (the comically sized stop signs are particularly irritating)
* Steering wheel touch pads -- finicky / noisy (e.g., to change the volume, you have to audibly click-click-click the touch pad rather than just quietly rolling a wheel)
* Steering wheel -- minor but a daily touch point -- didn't care for the squircle design / minivan feel of a screen-above-the-steering-wheel
* Dream Drive Premium/Pro is behind, and not confident about Lucid's ability to devote enough SW resources, integrate nVidia, compile enough driving data, etc.
* Minor issues: HUD display off to a rocky start, having to choose drive modes every time, doors that wouldn't close and fobs that wouldn't work during test drives
* Existential issues: Will the company survive (especially if BYD, etc make their way into the US), if I need service can I actually get an appointment, will their software team ever have enough bandwidth to solidify their software stack, migrate to Air/Earth, and fill the 37" wide screen with compelling content?

Tesla Cons:

* Stiffer suspension / noisier ride
* Known reliability issues with half shafts (FWD less of an issue for me given infrequent back seat use)
* Cheesy adjustability of rear seats
* Lack of turn signal stalks and power frunk (though can address both with third party solutions)
* Somewhat dated design / aesthetics (but then there's the new Frost Blue color)

Tesla Pros:

* Refined screen UI -- every pixel is filled with useful content
* Helicopter like front windshield and expansive driving view, with clever magnetic visors that easily swing out of the way
* Maturity of FSD, in-car app ecosystem, and iOS App (PAAK, remote start, sending destinations to your car, requesting service, "charge on solar" integration with Tesla PW/Solar, etc.)
* Last year's refresh addressed some long-standing complaints: noise (added active noise cancellation), interior (added mood lighting), blind spot indication (added red LEDs in the A pillar speakers)

Two things happened after I made my decision -- discontinuation of Model S/X and the 3.4 software release for Lucid. In the end I decided neither had much effect on the above pros and cons given how long I keep my cars.

This was a really hard decision, so I hope this list helps others.

I am disappointed that Tesla is moving away from making premium cars that you can actually drive (it was quite a financial risk in 2014 to commit my hard-earned $$ on a Model S), and I really want newcomers like Lucid to succeed and innovate in the EV space, but as a daily driver for the next 10 years this was the best choice for me.
 
Coming from a 2014 Model S, I test drove Gravity GT and refreshed Model X multiple times each, trying to decide on my next vehicle. Don't need a 3rd row (just space to take 3 passengers several times per month) and wanted a higher driving position (not another sedan).

Liked the Gravity so much last November that I put a deposit down. The interior fit and finish and quiet cabin, along with the promise of that super-wide screen and NACS connector, made a pretty compelling impression. I wanted a light interior color, but I heard so many bad things about durability of Lucid's Purluxe that I chose the least-worst leather option (Ojai) along with Lunar Titanium (listed as "winter availability"), which I figured would give me time to decide if the known software issues and viability of Lucid (losing money on every vehicle they sell) would change my mind.

In the end I ended up with a Model X because I decided the daily touch points I am used to in a Tesla outweighed the current state of Gravity and what it might become over time.

Here are the pros and cons that helped me make my final decision.

Gravity Pros:

* Super quiet / refined ride, elegant interior
* Amazing stereo system, especially with TIDAL content
* Faster NACS charging (but unable to use the more geographically remote, earlier version Tesla superchargers)
* Interior packaging -- it's incredible how much room they have created given the outside car dimensions, especially if you want or need comfort for 3rd row passengers
* Sanctuary mode (and what it could become) quite compelling

Gravity Cons:

* Navigation -- Here maps not in the same league as Tesla nav + Google maps (the comically sized stop signs are particularly irritating)
* Steering wheel touch pads -- finicky / noisy (e.g., to change the volume, you have to audibly click-click-click the touch pad rather than just quietly rolling a wheel)
* Steering wheel -- minor but a daily touch point -- didn't care for the squircle design / minivan feel of a screen-above-the-steering-wheel
* Dream Drive Premium/Pro is behind, and not confident about Lucid's ability to devote enough SW resources, integrate nVidia, compile enough driving data, etc.
* Minor issues: HUD display off to a rocky start, having to choose drive modes every time, doors that wouldn't close and fobs that wouldn't work during test drives
* Existential issues: Will the company survive (especially if BYD, etc make their way into the US), if I need service can I actually get an appointment, will their software team ever have enough bandwidth to solidify their software stack, migrate to Air/Earth, and fill the 37" wide screen with compelling content?

Tesla Cons:

* Stiffer suspension / noisier ride
* Known reliability issues with half shafts (FWD less of an issue for me given infrequent back seat use)
* Cheesy adjustability of rear seats
* Lack of turn signal stalks and power frunk (though can address both with third party solutions)
* Somewhat dated design / aesthetics (but then there's the new Frost Blue color)

Tesla Pros:

* Refined screen UI -- every pixel is filled with useful content
* Helicopter like front windshield and expansive driving view, with clever magnetic visors that easily swing out of the way
* Maturity of FSD, in-car app ecosystem, and iOS App (PAAK, remote start, sending destinations to your car, requesting service, "charge on solar" integration with Tesla PW/Solar, etc.)
* Last year's refresh addressed some long-standing complaints: noise (added active noise cancellation), interior (added mood lighting), blind spot indication (added red LEDs in the A pillar speakers)

Two things happened after I made my decision -- discontinuation of Model S/X and the 3.4 software release for Lucid. In the end I decided neither had much effect on the above pros and cons given how long I keep my cars.

This was a really hard decision, so I hope this list helps others.

I am disappointed that Tesla is moving away from making premium cars that you can actually drive (it was quite a financial risk in 2014 to commit my hard-earned $$ on a Model S), and I really want newcomers like Lucid to succeed and innovate in the EV space, but as a daily driver for the next 10 years this was the best choice for me.

Good list, and I would say the comparison is fairly accurate as of the older software 3.3.20. I test drove both the 2025 Model X (and still own a 2016 Model X) and the 2026 Lucid Gravity before making my decision. I made the opposite decision, though, for one simple reason:

Software will get better over time with OTA updates. Hardware will never change.​
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The critical decision factors for me for things that will never get better on the Model X:
  • The Gravity blows away the Model X on ride comfort, quietness, refinement, and handling.
  • The Gravity has much more range and faster charging speed than the Model X. EPA of 437 miles (7-seater) vs 257 miles. 800 V architecture vs 400 V.
  • Passenger seating and comfort.
    • The Gravity can easily seat passengers over 6 feet in the third row with comfort. The Model X third row is suitable only for small children. If you don’t need the 3rd row, get the 5 seat configuration for a little extra cargo space.
    • The Gravity’s second row seats are more adjustable and comfortable than the Model X.
  • The Gravity’s cargo space blows the Model X out of the water in all configurations.
  • Sound system. Wow - partially due to a quiet car.
  • Gravity has a turn signal stalk and drive/park/reverse stalk. Enough said.
  • ADAS sensors on the Gravity (with DDPro) besides just cameras. You can’t convince me that a vision only system is better than a system with vision, radar, lidar, and sonar in the long run.
  • Gravity squircle. Hand-over-hand is perfectly fine and you get used to it. I’d choose the squircle over a round steering wheel if that was an option. I like being able to see the full instrument cluster above the steering wheel.
No question that Tesla’s software is refined and FSD is pretty good. Lucid’s software and DDPro are acceptable and will only get better.

I’ll add that the 2025 Model X had a smoother ride and was quieter than my 2016 Model X. Otherwise, it was essentially the same car 10 years later, except no turn stalk, no drive/reverse/park stalk, no radar, no sonar (the 2016 Model X had all those). It did have FSD, which I liked a lot. Crossing my fingers on Lucid+Nvidia bringing self-driving to the Gravity with OTA updates.
 
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I owned a refreshed Model X, and now a Gravity.

I had several hardware issues with my X, some other parts dealt cheap, but it was smooth and powerful, in addition to the software being top-notch. I took it for at least two or three times to the dealership in order to fix some hardware minor issues.

Agree, Gravity’s software will get better over time, if you can handle the initial frustration and bugs, but indeed, Gravity feels premium, the seats are comfortable and better handling overall.

Honestly, I do believe Gravity is way ahead in comfort and premium feeling than X, but Tesla is miles ahead in the software department.
 
Coming from a 2014 Model S, I test drove Gravity GT and refreshed Model X multiple times each, trying to decide on my next vehicle. Don't need a 3rd row (just space to take 3 passengers several times per month) and wanted a higher driving position (not another sedan).

Liked the Gravity so much last November that I put a deposit down. The interior fit and finish and quiet cabin, along with the promise of that super-wide screen and NACS connector, made a pretty compelling impression. I wanted a light interior color, but I heard so many bad things about durability of Lucid's Purluxe that I chose the least-worst leather option (Ojai) along with Lunar Titanium (listed as "winter availability"), which I figured would give me time to decide if the known software issues and viability of Lucid (losing money on every vehicle they sell) would change my mind.

In the end I ended up with a Model X because I decided the daily touch points I am used to in a Tesla outweighed the current state of Gravity and what it might become over time.

Here are the pros and cons that helped me make my final decision.

Gravity Pros:

* Super quiet / refined ride, elegant interior
* Amazing stereo system, especially with TIDAL content
* Faster NACS charging (but unable to use the more geographically remote, earlier version Tesla superchargers)
* Interior packaging -- it's incredible how much room they have created given the outside car dimensions, especially if you want or need comfort for 3rd row passengers
* Sanctuary mode (and what it could become) quite compelling

Gravity Cons:

* Navigation -- Here maps not in the same league as Tesla nav + Google maps (the comically sized stop signs are particularly irritating)
* Steering wheel touch pads -- finicky / noisy (e.g., to change the volume, you have to audibly click-click-click the touch pad rather than just quietly rolling a wheel)
* Steering wheel -- minor but a daily touch point -- didn't care for the squircle design / minivan feel of a screen-above-the-steering-wheel
* Dream Drive Premium/Pro is behind, and not confident about Lucid's ability to devote enough SW resources, integrate nVidia, compile enough driving data, etc.
* Minor issues: HUD display off to a rocky start, having to choose drive modes every time, doors that wouldn't close and fobs that wouldn't work during test drives
* Existential issues: Will the company survive (especially if BYD, etc make their way into the US), if I need service can I actually get an appointment, will their software team ever have enough bandwidth to solidify their software stack, migrate to Air/Earth, and fill the 37" wide screen with compelling content?

Tesla Cons:

* Stiffer suspension / noisier ride
* Known reliability issues with half shafts (FWD less of an issue for me given infrequent back seat use)
* Cheesy adjustability of rear seats
* Lack of turn signal stalks and power frunk (though can address both with third party solutions)
* Somewhat dated design / aesthetics (but then there's the new Frost Blue color)

Tesla Pros:

* Refined screen UI -- every pixel is filled with useful content
* Helicopter like front windshield and expansive driving view, with clever magnetic visors that easily swing out of the way
* Maturity of FSD, in-car app ecosystem, and iOS App (PAAK, remote start, sending destinations to your car, requesting service, "charge on solar" integration with Tesla PW/Solar, etc.)
* Last year's refresh addressed some long-standing complaints: noise (added active noise cancellation), interior (added mood lighting), blind spot indication (added red LEDs in the A pillar speakers)

Two things happened after I made my decision -- discontinuation of Model S/X and the 3.4 software release for Lucid. In the end I decided neither had much effect on the above pros and cons given how long I keep my cars.

This was a really hard decision, so I hope this list helps others.

I am disappointed that Tesla is moving away from making premium cars that you can actually drive (it was quite a financial risk in 2014 to commit my hard-earned $$ on a Model S), and I really want newcomers like Lucid to succeed and innovate in the EV space, but as a daily driver for the next 10 years this was the best choice for me.
You bought after they announced they wont make X anymore? I would not have bought a car not being produced.
 
Forgetting about software bugs for a minute (Yeah, it's hard to do, I know), here are the compromises we've had to live with now owning a Gravity for 5 weeks and 1800 miles:

1) Wide "A" pillar creates front blind spots on turns. Taking narrow, curvy mountain roads every day I drive makes me more sensitive to this, but it's real. Even our Model X was better, but our old BMW X5s were far better, if only because they oriented the A pillar to have the smallest width of the cross-section facing the driver at an angle.

2) Rear center mirror doesn't have an camera-view screen option. More and more cars are including this feature, and a "Compromise Nothing" should also have it.

3) Top of doors are too high, bottom of doors are too low:
The too-high tops of the doors hurts visibility to the sides of the vehicle and we're still concerned about hitting curbs while maneuvering in parking lots.
The too-low bottoms of the doors means hitting curbs when you open them is a real issue. We've taken to having the car auto raise on Park to its highest position, which seems a OK work-around if you don't mind the car looking silly while parked, but it is a compromise.

4) Rear windows don't roll down all the way. This despite the doors having so much vertical height.

5) Rear hatch lid is both too low when open (head bumping), and is too tall so you have to back up every time you open it from the outside. A two-piece tailgate down with window up would be better on both accounts (X5 has this). That two-piece design is also great when you have bikes on the rear hitch mount.

6) No foot wave or even stand in front still for a few seconds to make the trunk open.

7) Rear hatch opens/closes too slowly.

8) Doors are not electrically operable. Not just the Model X now, other cars have doors that operate with motors and do things like auto-close when you step on the brake, or auto open on Park, or open from the keyfob.

9) No ride height rememberance. The Model X would let you geo-fence changes to ride height, which is useful if you have a steep driveway transistion at home or regularly travel some really rough roads, etc.

10) The sliding tray in the center console doesn't slide well. It's a plastic tray that slides some felt protrusions. It is hard to push/pull, but I suspect if Lucid made it slide easier, it would slide by itself during spirited driving. So, some compromise here that should be solved.

We really like our Gravity, especially compared to our Model Xs, but it's not a "Compromise Nothing" vehicle experience, even if all the software bugs were fixed.

Bonus item: Why just the one ocean meditation (or whatever it's called) for vibes? It's really cool, but there should be a half-dozen different ones.
Most of these complaints are not real compromises, its just things you wish the car had. You go on an on about no compromises- why not have lambs wool floor mats, or rear captain chairs with huge video screen, minifridge, champagne glasses, touchcreen for passenger, more buttons, less buttons.....etc.
 
They aren't compromises, they differences of design and packing opinions between you and Lucid. One could complain about every product, but there are myriad reasons it ended up like that and I choose the one that works best for my most important criteria.

The A pillars are very much an engineering decision. Heavy battery pack and 2025+ roll over roof crush standards = huge a pillars. The older the car, the smaller the A pillar because the standards were less...wait for it, robust.
 
And why is that?
It'll be harder and potentially more expensive to find parts for discontinued vehicles (though if you don't own your cars for long that may not matter).

More troubling, though, is the likely slowdown in software updates, seeing as the hardware will no longer be updated. Retrofitting the car w/ newer HW revisions, for instance. Or new features like the hands-free trunk feature that they added a few years back. In the best case scenario it'll get the same updates as the 3/Y, likely with less testing.
 
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