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Engineering Explained. This is bad.

electric said:
It's even worse in a Gravity as pushing a bottle into the cup can supposedly pinch the wire harness inside the tray.
When I first encountered this issue I thought my water bottle was the wrong size, so I bought Lucid bottle from their accessories store, but it didn't help.
The tray creaks and bends under the pressure it takes to put the bottle into the cup, so I just stopped using it altogether.
I also considered getting there with exacto knife and shaving off those rubber bumps to make it work properly.
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That is not true? There was an issue with assembly where when they insert the cupholders into the housing a wire could get pinched. Once it is set, though, taking cupholders in and out does not have any issues.
 
tarator said:
I have zero interest in discussing something with a "Yes, but..." person. :) Sorry.
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Find another forum if you only want agreement. Here, we discuss and debate and try to find truth, not solely consensus.

You don’t have to like someone disagreeing with you; but you do have to be okay with it to engage in actual discussion.
 
TahoeMichael said:
From my perspective, as someone who is on the verge of taking delivery of a Gravity, the uncertainty about whether you get a "good" car or a "bad" car is a huge part of the problem. This isn't some $200 purchase that I can just shrug off if my expectations aren't met. It's a $120K purchase where I probably immediately lose $25K (or more) if I have buyer's remorse and try to sell it. I know that there are a bunch of people on this forum who report being satisfied with their Lucid. Obvious there are some who wish they'd never bought. The inability to accurately gauge the proportion means that I cannot assess how much of a risk I might be taking by buying one myself.
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I agree with you. This is why I wish we had the numbers.
 
borski said:
Find another forum if you only want agreement. Here, we discuss and debate and try to find truth, not solely consensus.

You don’t have to like someone disagreeing with you; but you do have to be okay with it to engage in actual discussion.
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I definitely don't only want agreement, but I refuse to argue with people like you. Sorry again.

And please don't tell me what to do.
 
tarator said:
I definitely don't only want agreement, but I refuse to argue with people like you. Sorry again.

And please don't tell me what to do.
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“People like me”? Please, do go on.

Moreover, it may be somewhat telling that I said “discuss,” and you said “argue.” 🤷‍♂️
 
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tarator said:
I definitely don't only want agreement, but I refuse to argue with people like you. Sorry again.

And please don't tell me what to do.
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You have a sour demeanor and do not seem happy here, or with Lucid. It strikes me that perhaps you would be happier on another site. You are entitled to how you feel and we get that, but why continue with the site or the vehicle if they add stress or make you unhappy?
 
tarator said:
Hmm, it looks that EE video struck a nerve, didn't it? :)
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No. I actually liked it, quite a lot. I have no issues with the video. I posted my comment on YouTube to be helpful, not to say anything negative about the video.

Moreover - what does this comment serve? Other than to inflame?

Anyway, back on topic; I thought it was a good video. I wish he’d known how to do a reboot rather than a reset, but the bugs he ran into are real bugs; I’ve seen almost none of them in a very long time, in my experience, but clearly his vehicle had issues.

I’ll be curious to see a follow up with what Lucid does to fix it.
 
borski said:
No. I actually liked it, quite a lot. I have no issues with the video. I posted my comment on YouTube to be helpful, not to say anything negative about the video.

Moreover - what does this comment serve? Other than to inflame?
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What did your first reply to me in this thread serve? Other than to inflame? :)
 
9point81 said:
You have a sour demeanor and do not seem happy here, or with Lucid. It strikes me that perhaps you would be happier on another site. You are entitled to how you feel and we get that, but why continue with the site or the vehicle if they add stress or make you unhappy?
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Well, as I don't care what other people think about me owning an Air, for the same reason I don't care AT ALL what you, or anybody else here think about my "demeanor".
 
tarator said:
What did your first reply to me in this thread serve? Other than to inflame? :)
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It was that or deleting it. In hindsight, I obviously should have deleted it and avoided this entire “discussion.”
 
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tarator said:
Well, as I don't care what other people think about me owning an Air, for the same reason I don't care AT ALL what you, or anybody else here think about my "demeanor".
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Cool.

Have a lovely rest of your year.
 
borski said:
It was that or deleting it. In hindsight, I obviously should have deleted it and avoided this entire “discussion.”
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I mean, you can always delete your mistakes here and pretend you haven't done them, right? :) But you still KNOW that you have. :)
 
tarator said:
Well, as I don't care what other people think about me owning an Air, for the same reason I don't care AT ALL what you, or anybody else here think about my "demeanor".
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I am not seeking confrontation, but clearly you are. I will block your account and move on. Have a nice life.
 
9point81 said:
I am not seeking confrontation, but clearly you are. I will block your account and move on. Have a nice life.
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Oh, no, a random person on the Internets has blocked me! I am devastated! :)

Thanks, have a nice life too.
 
tarator said:
I mean, you can always delete your mistakes here and pretend you haven't done them, right? :) But you still KNOW that you have. :)
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Do us all a favor and knock it off. Seriously. This thread is going nowhere fast. Locking it if this continues.

Meanwhile, please read the guidelines and abide by them. Calling people names, which was your original post where this all started, is not okay.

Disagreement is welcome. Disrespect is not.
 
tarator said:
I mean, you can always delete your mistakes here and pretend you haven't done them, right? :) But you still KNOW that you have. :)
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I stand by every one of my posts. Anyway, that is enough. You have attempted to make whatever point it was you were trying to make; that's done now. Back on topic. Anything not related to the topic after this will be deleted.
 
I don't owe borski any favor and I'm not paid to say this, but he has my utmost respect.
He's an altruistic man of immense integrity.
If we cold clone this guy, a lot more good would be done.
 
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