Please, would you jump in with my baggage?

[L-Dude]

Well not every baby is beautiful

 

[Drew46]

Well not every baby is beautiful

That is only because you don't understand how to charge them correctly.

 

[kort6776]

I would have no worries about the distance to the service center. But, as much as I love this car, I would not own any EV as my only car. The charging infrastructure in the NorthEast is woefully inadequate. I have a charger and one at my second home. There is 1 single fast charger on my route between my two homes. I have only relied on public charging for one trip to Boston and the charger I used stated it was 350Mhz but charged at 140 so it took 80 minutes to top off from 250 miles of remaining range. My wife went to MD last week and took another car to avoid having to deal with public charging. If you are set on an EV, Lucid is the winner hands down for range and other considerations. But if patience is not your virtue, I would think very hard about having an EV as your only car.

topping off like this is not the best method for speedier charging while on road trips. there is a method that I employ that has served me well in multiple 1k+ mile trips. it is known as driving the bottom of the battery. doing this maxes out the charging speed and gets you back on the road faster than topping off when the car is at a higher SOC. as for having an EV as your only car, that indeed is a very personal choice, EVs don't work well for everyone, but I have had two EVs and no ICE vehicles for many years and I am fine with that. YMMV

 

[kort6776]

Apologies. I do get frustrated when someone hijacks a thread into an argument and it detracts from the OP getting good information to digest.

without trying to antagonize you but your "facts" regarding charging are not very good.

 

[newlucidguy]

I am not writing it off; I was just giving the OP some data points given his self-recognition that he is not a patient man. Having to manage the charging curve is counter to patience. And while I appreciate your input, there are times (as this was for me) when you need the full range for the next leg of your trip so charging to 100% becomes the use case for that use. I am not sure why everyone is so defensive. EVs are not the panacea and they are not for everyone. Helping the OP make a fully informed decision should be the goal of this forum. I am not suggesting he pass on the Lucid, I am just sharing my personal experiences. Somehow I fell like some of you think I called your baby ugly.

just one point .. for EV use, charging above 90% on the road is against "best practice" due to how long it takes vs. the incremental mileage you get .. so what irks people I think is appearing to condemn the car when it's not charged the way most people recommend for a long trip. to generalize, it's the blanket generalizations that rub people the wrong way, which seems to be happening in a few spots in this thread.

 

[coma24]

I am not writing it off; I was just giving the OP some data points given his self-recognition that he is not a patient man. Having to manage the charging curve is counter to patience. And while I appreciate your input, there are times (as this was for me) when you need the full range for the next leg of your trip so charging to 100% becomes the use case for that use. I am not sure why everyone is so defensive. EVs are not the panacea and they are not for everyone. Helping the OP make a fully informed decision should be the goal of this forum. I am not suggesting he pass on the Lucid, I am just sharing my personal experiences. Somehow I fell like some of you think I called your baby ugly.

That's fair, and I appreciate the additional nuance. Many people complain about charging times (while they're at the charging station), only to reveal that they had no idea about the charging curve for their vehicle or why it exists. If you understand the curve and you have a functional need to charge to 100% (or close to it) on a regular basis, then, yes, the charging time is substantial. However, many people blindly charge to 100% on road trips because they simply assume it's the best thing to do, since they're "on a road trip" and "you never know," etc.

 

[kort6776]

However, many people blindly charge to 100% on road trips because they simply assume it's the best thing to do, since they're "on a road trip" and "you never know," etc.

while on trips that require l3 charges my goal is to arrive at that charger with as low of an SOC as possible. I can get my air gt up to 70% in about 20 minutes and almost always that will be enough to make it to another charger on the route I am taking.

 

[coma24]

while on trips that require l3 charges my goal is to arrive at that charger with as low of an SOC as possible. I can get my air gt up to 70% in about 20 minutes and almost always that will be enough to make it to another charger on the route I am taking.

Agreed, that's why I was pushing back on the assertion as he didn't definitively state that he actually needed the 100% charge. However, if he is in a circumstance where the next L3 charger requires more or less 100% to get there, then it is what it is.

 

[thyname]

only to reveal that they had no idea about the charging curve for their vehicle or why it exists.

That's true. And some more:

I have been charging for years now at public chargers, and often talk to other people waiting (or they talk to me). I would say close to a majority of them are somewhat misinformed to charging dynamics, charging curve, charging speeds, capacity of battery, etc. etc. And a good portion of them, completely clueless