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Not a skill I am interested in. I want to know what to expect from normal driving in a car that is fun to drive.Hypermiling is a skill.
Not a skill I am interested in. I want to know what to expect from normal driving in a car that is fun to drive.Hypermiling is a skill.
Not a skill I am interested in. I want to know what to expect from normal driving in a car that is fun to drive.
I have a small sample size of data to add to the mix. After charging today, I was able to achieve 4.2 mi/kwh over the distance of around 10 miles. It required me to do EXTREMELY conservative driving but I was on surface streets the whole time. I got tired of driving so slow so drove normal again. I'm pretty close to averaging around 3.2 mi/kwh with my split of 50/50 city/highway driving.
I’ve always found it interesting how some brands significantly overperform and other underperform their EPA ratings. What appear to be vast differences in EPA range between EVs, when you factor in real world results, are sometimes not nearly as great as first thought.
I was disappointed in the disparity between my MS’s advertised range vs my real world results. Then when I factored in phantom drain, the range disparity took an even bigger hit. I simply thought phantom drain was a fact of life with EVs, until I drove my next two EVs that had nearly none.
I respectfully disagree. Bluetooth as a protocol is always on and searching where as RF is initiated on a as needed basis thus battery life runs from 6 months to 1 year..You may not like the battery life in the key fob with RF. That is the advantage of Bluetooth.
Will be doing that today and revert back.Interesting. Did you try unblinking them and relinking?
I respectfully disagree. Bluetooth as a protocol is always on and searching where as RF is initiated on a as needed basis thus battery life runs from 6 months to 1 year..
Tom Mologhney will do a 70 mph range test, unless they do a Le Mans style driver swap, that is going to be brutal.
I am anxiously waiting for real world numbers. We are planning on crossing through Death Valley, Grand Canyon and up to Moab in June. Right now the longest leg is 371 miles. There isn't any charging along this leg to get a quick charge while rest/eating. Kayenta, AZ
Route I have to take is I-40 out of Williams to Route 89, over to Route 160 and then Route 191 to Moab. I can't tell if this is the route of the screen shots.
This is exactly why I have always wanted a car with AT LEAST 500 miles of range. I have stated that earlier and so many responded that 500 miles was overkill and one needs to take breaks. However….They probably test at 70 mph because you wouldn't want to post a video premised on breaking the speed limit. However, the average speed on U.S. interstates is 78 mph, and power consumption rises non-linearly with speed. So, if you prefer to drive with the flow of traffic (which accident data show to be the safest speed, regardless of posted speed limit) or a tad faster, you're going to do considerably worse than a 70-mph range test will predict.
This is why we have tested both our Teslas ourselves with the cruise controls set to 80 mph. As both Teslas consistently read 2-3 mph faster than the GPS speed indicators in our radar detectors, we thus are setting the true speed at 78 mph. (This is another Tesla trick to make range seem greater. Our Honda speedometer conforms exactly to the GPS speed indicator in our radar detector.)
We do these tests on Alligator Alley, a flat, straight, lightly traveled stretch of I-75 through the Florida Everglades, in dry weather in temperatures between 80-90 degrees, and we use highway mile markers to gauge distance.
Our 2015 Model S P90D consumed about 10 miles of indicated range reduction for every 6 miles of actual road travel. The 2021 Plaid is considerably better at about 7 miles of actual road travel for every 10 miles of indicated range reduction. (Of course, what this is also testing is the accuracy of the cars' displays of remaining range.)
One of the things I'm worried about is the fact that Lucid uses no buffers in the 118-kWh battery pack, whereas almost every other EV manufacturer does. Unless they are using some secret cell chemistry that protects from deterioration at extreme high and low states of charge, it means they are sacrificing pack longevity to get maximal EPA range ratings. As an owner, I will plan every trip based on charging up to 90% and not letting the pack drop below 20% (just to leave margin for unexpected delays, inclement weather, or extreme topography en route).
All of this -- together with my preferred highway speed of around 80 mph -- means I will be assuming ~250 miles of real-world range in the Lucid Dream P on 21" wheels on a long road trip. However, that's still over 3 hours or driving, and more than I would want to do without a break.
This is basically that section...Route I have to take is I-40 out of Williams to Route 89, over to Route 160 and then Route 191 to Moab. I can't tell if this is the route of the screen shots.