Lucid GPS

[GopsandLuci]

Having GPS issues with Lucid - wondering if anyone else has experienced the following:
1) GPS direction warning coming very late, almost when the change is supposed to take place. Wondering if there is anything in the settings that can be changed? I use both Google Maps and Lucid GPS for directions.
2) Is Lucid navigation tailored towards the next charging station? Again - I'm using Google Maps to bypass Lucid's but struggling with the fact that there's no car play.
3) Lucid navigation has wrong speed limits - e.g. on a highway with 55mph posting, Lucid navigation showed 75mph

 

[borski]

Having GPS issues with Lucid - wondering if anyone else has experienced the following:
1) GPS direction warning coming very late, almost when the change is supposed to take place. Wondering if there is anything in the settings that can be changed? I use both Google Maps and Lucid GPS for directions.
2) Is Lucid navigation tailored towards the next charging station? Again - I'm using Google Maps to bypass Lucid's but struggling with the fact that there's no car play.
3) Lucid navigation has wrong speed limits - e.g. on a highway with 55mph posting, Lucid navigation showed 75mph

1) no setting, unfortunately, but you can try using offline maps and see if that’s faster? I’m not sure.

2) if you navigate somewhere it will take range into account and suggest charging stations. Not sure what you mean by “tailored” to the next charging station, but it does add in charging if you need it.

3) lucid nav reads speed limit signs in real time; it isn’t perfect but will usually correct itself by the next speed limit sign it sees. It is not pre-programmed.

 

[Steveinarizona]

1) no setting, unfortunately, but you can try using offline maps and see if that’s faster? I’m not sure.

2) if you navigate somewhere it will take range into account and suggest charging stations. Not sure what you mean by “tailored” to the next charging station, but it does add in charging if you need it.

3) lucid nav reads speed limit signs in real time; it isn’t perfect but will usually correct itself by the next speed limit sign it sees. It is not pre-programmed.

Reading speed signs is a real challenge. I have had cars that do that for more than five years and have seen various challenges. My prior car didn't recognize school speed zones; my current car recognizes them but doesn't recognize that we have passed the zone. There is a reason these are considered "assist" functions.

 

[joec]

Reading speed signs is a real challenge. I have had cars that do that for more than five years and have seen various challenges. My prior car didn't recognize school speed zones; my current car recognizes them but doesn't recognize that we have passed the zone. There is a reason these are considered "assist" functions.

This can also vary depending on how those signs are positioned. I find my Touring does a pretty good job at seeing posted signs on highways and major roads. The smaller, residential areas where it’s 25 (or even 20 in many places here in Boulder) it sometimes misses. Could be interference from surrounding trees or houses?

Fortunately I’m never using any form of assist in those places.

 

[joec]

The thing I love about HA is when it detects a new speed limit, it gives you a little 10-second countdown. If you click the left rocker button before the countdown ends, it will gently adjust to that new limit. If not, it stays where you set it.

My Tesla would often just immediately go to the new speed limit without asking. Which could be quite jarring when the limit changes from 75 to 45.

In general, I’m finding Lucid’s HA far more smooth and relaxing than FSD. More like babysitting a slightly experienced teenaged driver than a first-time student.

 

[Keith]

Lucid Navigation adds Waypoints, so yes, it'll take you to a charging stations along your route.

When Charging Waypoints are routed, the Navigation display on the main screen continues to show only the final destination. I'd like to see BOTH the next Waypoint (if on exists) and on the next line the final destination information. I suppose the final destination arrival time could account (if it doesn't already) for estimated charging time, though that is a huge variable.

 

[borski]

Reading speed signs is a real challenge. I have had cars that do that for more than five years and have seen various challenges. My prior car didn't recognize school speed zones; my current car recognizes them but doesn't recognize that we have passed the zone. There is a reason these are considered "assist" functions.

Agreed. It’s also gotten better; when I first got my DE, it would read every “truck” speed limit sign as a real one, and it was extremely annoying. That got fixed quickly, and now it’s correct 90-95% of the time.

I suspect it will continue to get better.

 

[HariK]

I think one fine day all the speed limit signs will also be electronic to control the traffic and also use 5g v2i vehicle to infrastructures to communicate. Till then, it is best for us to really pay attention to the posted traffic signs.

 

[smithj90]

Has anyone experienced the app showing your car in a different location? I was at a hotel and checked my app to see if it was still in the parking ramp and the GPS showed it 11 miles away. I freaked out, ran to the ramp and it was happily sitting where I left it.

 

[Keith]

YES! I brought my Lucid to Florida via the auto train out of Lorton Virginia. In the morning when we arrived in Florida, I checked on the car with the app and it said it was in Savanah GA .. I kinda freaked out. The car of course was on the train, but even after rebooting twice and driving around the GPS had us in the forests of Georgia and was moving as we were .. just hundreds of miles away. The next day in FL it was still off, but the second day it was working correctly and been ok since.

 

[Tesla2.0]

In general, I’m finding Lucid’s HA far more smooth and relaxing than FSD. More like babysitting a slightly experienced teenaged driver than a first-time student.

I also find Lucid HA more refined than Rivian. Whenever there is a car next to neighbor lane that is close, Rivian will stop HA and advise take over. Lucid will just ease thru.

 

[Tesla2.0]

YES! I brought my Lucid to Florida via the auto train out of Lorton Virginia. In the morning when we arrived in Florida, I checked on the car with the app and it said it was in Savanah GA .. I kinda freaked out. The car of course was on the train, but even after rebooting twice and driving around the GPS had us in the forests of Georgia and was moving as we were .. just hundreds of miles away. The next day in FL it was still off, but the second day it was working correctly and been ok since.

There is definitely some GPS lag in server info. My car was parked in garage, but the mobile app indicated I was in Hooter backlot. My GT is very humerous, but it only happened once and hasn’t happened ever since then.

https://lucidowners.com/threads/ota-1-2-10.2260/post-56724

 

[DanHi]

When the GPS route is displayed on the Pilot Panel, it appears that it's North up, as opposed to direction of travel. Is there any way to change this?

 

[Steveinarizona]

I think one fine day all the speed limit signs will also be electronic to control the traffic and also use 5g v2i vehicle to infrastructures to communicate. Till then, it is best for us to really pay attention to the posted traffic signs.

Yes. On the way to my golf club there is a school with a school zone sign reading "25 mph" between the times of 7:30-8:30 and 2:30-3:30 (sort of, I am doing this from my rather imperfect memory). The other speed limit signs read 35 mph. When one starts thinking of all the possible permutations like this, it becomes close to impossible unless one puts an incredibly powerful computer in the car to analyze all the street signs and form a conclusion as to what applies to the moment that the driver is crossing the line.

Given the quality of drivers these days...anything could happen. I was driving yesterday and watched a driver approach a roundabout and just freeze not knowing what to do. Not exactly brain surgery. God only knows what that driver would do when confronted with the sign I described.

 

[borski]

When the GPS route is displayed on the Pilot Panel, it appears that it's North up, as opposed to direction of travel. Is there any way to change this?

Each of the upper and lower screens have view options; tap the icon on the bottom right of the screen.

 

[DanHi]

There is a settings icon (which doesn't have much) and in the lower right there is an icon specifying N up, but when I click it there's no way to set it to anything except range or 3D or 2D. Have you actually been able to set this to something other than N Up?

 

[borski]

There is a settings icon (which doesn't have much) and in the lower right there is an icon specifying N up, but when I click it there's no way to set it to anything except range or 3D or 2D. Have you actually been able to set this to something other than N Up?

From the manual:

The Pilot Panel and Glass Cockpit can maintain their own independent map setting and zoom level whether routing or not. Touch the icon in the lower right of the map to select from one of five default map viewing modes:

• Range Map: Shows the approximate range that can be traveled using your current level of charge.
• 3D Track-Up: 3D view that tracks your vehicle’s current position, and rotates the map to show what is in front of the vehicle.
• 2D Track-Up: 2D view that tracks your vehicle’s current position, and rotates the map to show what is in front of the vehicle.
• North-Up: 2D view where North is always at the top of the map.
• Route Overview: Displays your current route end to end.
  NOTE: The Route Overview option will only appear when a route is selected.

The default map views will be ignored once you start manually interacting with the map. The system will maintain your personal user mode until you select one of the default views listed above.

 

[DanHi]

Thanks, it wasn't clear from these options that it would change from N Up.

 

[Steveinarizona]

Thanks, it wasn't clear from these options that it would change from N Up.

People are different. Duh. I prefer north up. All those years reading a map have oriented me to expect to see north on top. Of course, the easy answer is to allow both which is sort of what Lucid does. But reviewers have often criticized BMW cars for offering too many choices to choose from. Auto manufacturers are in a tough place over what to make permanent, what to make a default and what options to offer. Ultimately, the consumer needs to see if the particular company has made the choices that come closest to her needs.

So on Lucid, if you want north up, go north up. If you want it to follow your direction, choose Track-Up (thanks borski).