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Just An FYI Regarding Telsa's Autopilot

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A more extensive "engineering" investigation will be condudted into the Tesla Auto Pilot after so many accidents have ocurred over the last 4 years. To read the article, just click HERE
 
DJL said:
A more extensive "engineering" investigation will be condudted into the Tesla Auto Pilot after so many accidents have ocurred over the last 4 years. To read the article, just click HERE
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And here, the Tesla crowd would have you believe there has yet to be a single accident that was autopilot's fault.
 
joec said:
And here, the Tesla crowd would have you believe there has yet to be a single accident that was autopilot's fault.
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I alternate days driving between my Tesla and Lucid. I wouldn't phrase it like that. I don't think the accidents are the "fault" of the autopilot. The Level II steering and cruise control needs to be watched continuously, hence the designation Level II. How a driver could allow their car to run into an emergency vehicle parked on the shoulder because they "thought" the Tesla should avoid it is remarkable. If the argument is that people are deceived into complacency by the phrase "Autopilot", I don't buy it. My guess is the number of MVAs per mile while Tesla autopilot is enabled is far lower than the number per mile where it is not enabled. They have many millions of miles of data stored. Let's see it.
 
cabood said:
I alternate days driving between my Tesla and Lucid. I wouldn't phrase it like that. I don't think the accidents are the "fault" of the autopilot. The Level II steering and cruise control needs to be watched continuously, hence the designation Level II. How a driver could allow their car to run into an emergency vehicle parked on the shoulder because they "thought" the Tesla should avoid it is remarkable. If the argument is that people are deceived into complacency by the phrase "Autopilot", I don't buy it. My guess is the number of MVAs per mile while Tesla autopilot is enabled is far lower than the number per mile where it is not enabled. They have many millions of miles of data stored. Let's see it.
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It's not that people are deceived into complacency, so much as it's simply not as safe to be "watching" over another driver than it is to just drive yourself. At least at the current technology level.

There have been at least 10 incidents in the last three years where I definitely woudl have been rear ended if someone were driving close enough behind me. All phantom braking events that simply would never have happened if I were driving myself.
 
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No problems with autopilot or FSD on my Tesla. I don’t treat it like autopilot and still am constantly monitoring the situation and paying attention. When phantom breaking happens, which is not often, it is easy enough to to correct and take total control.
 
I have't experienced phantom braking in the Tesla, so can't comment on that. I think the NHTSA investigation is focused on running into roadside vehicles.
 
cabood said:
I have't experienced phantom braking in the Tesla, so can't comment on that. I think the NHTSA investigation is focused on running into roadside vehicles.
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There’s a separate investigation regarding phantom braking. Over 750 people filed complaints in the past 4 years.
 
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