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  1. JoshG

    BIG price changes on 2025 Air in-stock Airs!

    Last night, Lucid RAISED the price of the last few 2025 Pure models in stock by a whopping $5,000. Maybe this is being offset by some incentives that changed for July over June, but that's a big increase. At the same time, the company LOWERED the price of the last few 2025 Grand Touring in...
  2. JoshG

    2026 Air changeover date

    Well, SOMETHING's up, I just don't know what. Last night, Lucid RAISED the price of all remaining 2025 Air Pure cars in inventory by a whopping $5,000! That's a very strange move when the activity level on Pure inventory cars has been incredibly slow compared to Touring, but maybe just reflects...
  3. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    Yes, I have plenty of complaints about things in the Air that are lacking or missing, but overall I don't find anything better out there for the money. It's unquestionably a great overall package and really excellent driving experience. I remain interested in the gravity, but have learned my...
  4. JoshG

    Touring interior light question

    Thanks. Having previously had a '23 Touring with Santa Cruz leather and non-massage 14-way seats, but decent interior lighting (don't care about color lights), and now having a '25 with pureluxe massaging seats, I'd take the lighting. I so far find the massage function gimmicky, annoying, and...
  5. JoshG

    Touring interior light question

    Did you get an answer on this? I have a new '25 Air, metal roof, purluxe with 20-way seats. Choosing PurLuxe with upgraded 20-way seats means I give up any usable interior floor/door lighting? I don't even care much about the color changing, just want some brighter, adjustable lighting in...
  6. JoshG

    Ambient Lighting Not Included – Anyone Else Run Into This?

    Is this still the case? I had a '23 Touring with Santa Cruz and the "normal" (14-way) seats with metal roof. Color ambient lighting worked great (footwells and door pockets). Just got a '25 Touring with metal roof and Mojave Purluxe 20-way seats. Same problem - extremely faint white-only...
  7. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    We may be getting off track of the initial point I was making about Lucid's money factor, but every source i can find out there disagrees with you when you state that residual doesn't factor in to the interest you pay. You: Google: ChatGPT: For now, I'm going to go with the explanations...
  8. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    Not correct. You pay interest on the average lease balance, which is the average of the adjusted cap cost and the residual value over the term of the lease... which essentially is what I described. You're paying interest on the part of the car that depreciates over your lease. You definitely...
  9. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    I asked Chat GPT if it's legal in California to provide lease documents with the financial disclosure items without the money factor or interest rate. Of course Lucid has good lawyers and wouldn't have omitted if it the law required it. It's not a requirement on leases for some reason, only on...
  10. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    Wow, all these lower MFs. Either they recently raised them, or the MF on 18-month leases is crazy high.
  11. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    thanks. Yes, the BMW person gave it... both the sales guy and finance guy were happy to provide it. Haven't checked if it's in the BMW lease docs. Interesting Tesla doesn't provide it in the docs either. We had leased a Model 3 and if it wasn't in our docs, they certainly provided it as I...
  12. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    what length of lease? the rates are different for different lengths.
  13. JoshG

    Opening charge port door from outside

    I'm on my 2nd Lucid Air (2025 Air Touring after a 2023 Touring) and in both vehicles, the documented method of opening the charge port door from outside doesn't seem to work. I've seen the diagram in the manual showing you where to push on the door (near bottom edge) and yes, the car was...
  14. JoshG

    Lucid Finance's Current Money Factor (Air)

    I'm on my second Lucid lease, and for reasons I can't understand, Lucid and Lucid Finance do everything they can to not disclose the lease Money Factor. They seem to give you the runaround when you ask what it is. Money Factor should not be a secret... it would be like a mortgage company not...
  15. JoshG

    Software and Tech Opinions

    If @californiaboy935 is referring to putting a large amount like that down on a lease, yes, that's a huge mistake. I posted more about the dangers of big-downpayment leasing here. shorter version: NEVER wise to put down big money upfront on a lase. If you total your car or it gets stolen...
  16. JoshG

    "trying" to move from Tesla Model S to Grand Touring

    Since you also asked about DDPro, should have pointed out that I had it on my first 2023 Touring, and I decided that while it isn't that great, it was worth getting again on my 2025. I like the added auto-park features and the new curb-rash alerts, and do occasionally use the Drive Assist on...
  17. JoshG

    "trying" to move from Tesla Model S to Grand Touring

    A few thoughts. Regarding @DeaneG's post about how imminent 2026s are, I've been tracking this very carefully and for now there's no sign that they're drawing down 2025 inventory or even slowing production of new 2025s. See here for more on that if you're curious, but I'd say don't wait for...
  18. JoshG

    2026 Air changeover date

    Hmmmm... BIG increase in the number of Air Touring's they're producing right now. Must be a lot of demand for that trim (makes sense to me as it seems the value choice right now). They're definitely slowing or stopping Pure and Grand Touring and cranking out Tourings. And... definitely no...
  19. JoshG

    2026 Air changeover date

    FYI, i could minimize the effect of the 2nd bullet by CRON'ing my script to just run unattended every 5 minutes or so, but I don't want to keep hitting their servers with this type of bot. While it would still likely be minimal in terms of overall traffic to their sites, I'm just against that...
  20. JoshG

    2026 Air changeover date

    absolutely... i get this, just don't think many people here want to see all the nitty gritty: Here's an example of what i pull. The "new" and "removed" lists are comparing from the last time I ran the script, whenever that was... so it can be a big list if i run it with several days between...
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