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Cosmos will get as many or more miles from an 82 or 92 kWh pack than the BMW will get, anyway. Better drag coefficient, lighter. Better motor efficiency. And yes. Cheaper. I think people are underestimating how much of a payoff many years of doing things the hard way engineering-wise is...

One issue I see immediately with the decision to go single screen on Cosmos is that this will necessitate yet another unique UI layer for midsize. They can’t simply run Gravity’s software without some serious rethinking of the interaction layer, at least. This worries me, given we’re talking...

Just got 2.8.30 on my car. At long last, my 2.8.16 nightmare is finally over. 😀 Oddly enough, the car installed 2.8.17 first. THEN asked if I wanted to update to 2.8.30. (Anyone else on 2.8.16, don't be surprised if you see this, too.) Which means they could have let me install 2.8.17 all...

I couldn't agree more. And this is what I meant about the whole midsize platform having potentially way more appeal than Rivian's R2, which will have its loyal fans, but not be able to attract anyone beyond it. Rivian won't be offering any true competitor to Cosmos for many years. But Earth...

Yeah, I'm skeptical "normal" people will get their Cosmos before at least late Q1 2027, too. But I keep reminding myself that Cosmos was designed to be a much simpler car for a reason. It's still Lucid, and it's still obviously challenging to build any car, but this build should make Air and...

They should. Whenever a car goes to service, one of their "courtesy" checks is to look at your software version and update if needed.

Agreed on Rivian. I just think Rivian's brand appeals to a smaller overall market than Lucid can ultimately capture. Lucid can be Toyota and Lexus at the same time. Or Apple, essentially. The feel of luxury at cost points that range from super expensive to not-cheap-but-wont-break-the-bank. I...

Just a quick reminder: Statements like "Nobody cares about xyz" are demonstrably false and fairly counterproductive to any useful discussion. "I don't care about xyz" is what you mean to say. Which is fine. Don't put thoughts into the rest of our minds. I don't care about a 10-band graphic...

He did say the word “option” during the presentation. Subscription option. I would not be surprised if for Cosmos it ends up being subscription only, though. Gravity and Air may keep the pay up front option.

Yeah. It’s a good point of comparison. But I think most of us agree it would be better if Lucid strove to do better than Tesla, not the same. Still, it does help me to remember most players in this industry are under delivering on everything. Who here thinks we’re actually going to see...

So if I’m reading all the fuss right, Lucid said an update was “coming soon” or would begin to roll out by x date, but then it didn’t. Okay. Those who say that’s on Lucid for bad communication and expectation setting? Heard. Totally fair. And for those who say it's better to be a little late...

I’ll also reiterate what I said on another thread, which is that L3 is likely never going to happen for any manufacturer. Not because it’s not possible, but because no lawyer would allow a company to ship it. Telling someone they don’t need to pay attention, but they are responsible for being...

I don’t personally recall ever seeing “L3” in any Lucid marketing that was present when I bought my car. People here claim to have seen that. Does anyone have a copy of it? Again, I’m talking about press releases or the web site as it looked in 2022. Not presentations to investors from back in...

Thanks for this. It’s definitely worth putting the proper definitions back into the conversation. To me, Level 3 is the part that never made any sense. And I’m guessing that’s why so many are stuck calling things Level 2++++ and such. If I don’t need to pay attention at all, there’s no...

Bingo. Not only have they not sold that many Airs, they will sometime in the next few years almost certainly replace the current Air with a model that shares a lot more computer architecture with Cosmos, etc. So there will forever be a finite, small number of this current Air architecture out...

Name me an ADAS feature that was promised for Air that hasn't already been delivered. I keep hearing people talk about promises that simply weren't made at the time of purchase. Assumptions seem to have been made on the part of customers. I keep reading "Buy my Tesla does X" to which I say...

The sad fact is Lucid could probably promise to ship L4 for current Airs forever, never deliver, and the folks here would actually be happier.

Sure. But how far do you take that? Years ago, I worked in a computer store. Guy came in and claimed the company was engaged in “planned obsolescence” because his ten-year old printer was no longer compatible with the latest OS. In my experience, the types of people who raise a big stink like...

We can have a discussion of whether or not Lucid “should” say stuff like that in their marketing. Ethically, it’s certainly not great. But this is the USA. It’s how we do things here. How many of us pay for “Unlimited data” on our phones? Pass a law that says “Future Capable” means you have...

I mean, okay? But “Future Capable” is a meaningless term. There’s no way I would read that as “This car will do everything any future car will ever be able to do, even if no car currently does any of it.” It could just as easily mean “this car will continue doing what it does in the future.”...