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I think they've always said that they'll build the more loaded configs first, one of a few priority points including prior ownership. So a loaded GT in the right colors and trims might be able to be built alongside the DEs.

If there is a supplier issue they are working through (as they've said) then the end of year event could have been basically to just build what they would build right now today, but with the available parts that were hand-selected from the supplier in question. Basically, it was easy enough to...

As listed in bullet point #13 at https://lucidmotors.com/offers

Is frontal area calculated from the convex hull of the front projection? Or is it calculated continuously? The various height settings shouldn't change the frontal area by much as it would only be a few inches of the tires that would disappear inside the rest of the area. The space under the car...

Yeah, kind of. But in this case they are offering $15k incentive + $5k more for Tesla owners is $20k off, but only if you lease.

AFAICT, taking a 27 month lease on a P3 with the current incentives and buying it out the next day saves you over $10k on just purchasing it. If you own a Tesla, even more.

How short do they offer? Their offers page shows a minimum of 36 months for their current "offers", but maybe they have shorter leases we can negotiate?

This is how I've been considering my decision about what to get while I wait for Gravity to reach deliveries. I can find a stop-gap car, long term rental, buy a cheap car, etc. while I wait, or I can lease/buy something I actually want to own even if it is not for long, and just place the...

Was that a misquote, or did they really skip a zero there? 1.306 is 30.6% higher. Some other observations - dictionaries have also embraced the definition that exponentially can cover "quicker and quicker" which basically means anything that is beyond linear. One reference even showed a graph...

I'm not going to get into the logical fallacies of your leading questions. I will just make some statements of fact. I fully believe that the DE drivetrain is well developed. I have believed that for a week or two. I am not making a case that it was cobbled together. I don't believe that to be...

There was a long discussion about whether DE is a "parts car" with a rushed drivetrain, or if it was a well-planned and executed variant. The late announcement of it suggests the question, but I think there is plenty of evidence that they've always wanted to do a P version anyway so the...

Absolutely! But, by the same token. "We thought it didn't exist, but now it does" does not equate to "any mention of a DE, even ones that failed to pan out in the ordering process, are absolute evidence that they've been working on the DE drivetrains since then". That's a guess, and there is...

Maybe they never said it to you, but they said it to my face on 2 occasions as I was looking over a show model that had the badging. Once at the headquarters. But, yeah, they've said a number of things that represent more "current plans" and lack of pass-down than specific guarantees, so take my...

They are currently offering DE with 20/21" wheels. Was that planned all the way back to 11/2023? No. It wasn't even planned all the way back to 2/2025. That change happened right after a number of people (including me) got phone calls and said that they weren't going to go for DE because of the...

Yes, absolutely. They literally said so to my face on multiple occasions. And the prevailing sentiment on the board until a few weeks ago was that there would not be one. I'm not going to go and do a full survey, but before we had evidence to the contrary there were many comments about the...

That's a far cry from "Oh look, it has DE badging! We now have rock solid proof that they are actively designing a DE from this very moment" followed by many public comments about how they weren't going the same route as the Air launch and were diving directly into the final GT, then T...

I thought we had word that there would not be one after all and that the badging shown was just an idea. In other words, they had explicitly denied that those badges were, in fact, telling the market that there was going to be a DE. It turns out there is a DE, but there was also explicit denial...

I'm not talking about what we might know through other avenues. I'm just talking about the data point being used as evidence that "we saw DE over a year ago". No, we absolutely did not "see" an actual DE that long back. We saw a cobbled together "thing" that had a DE badge on it. What was shown...

Nobody could drive the models that were shown back then so all we really know is that they unveiled the DE badging at the reveal event. There has been DE badging on the "don't touch" models shown in studios as well. There was no indication that these cars had any different mechanicals under the...

Similar here. MX P100D in early 2017, but FSD for $3k. The price at the time was $5k for Enhanced Autopilot (EAP) and $3k add on for FSD, which they said was going to drive a car across the country by the end of the year - haha. I have enjoyed the EAP most of that time, it was dodgy when I first...