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Can I ask what you don’t like? Anything annoying so far, or anything you wish they did differently?

I did the math in the other thread, but leaving the house fully charged and charging to 300 miles you’d expect the Gravity to be essentially equal time off the highway as a gas car over 1000 miles when charging on the supercharger network. Anything below 1000 miles and the Gravity would actually...

The average “station dwell time” at a gas station is 12 minutes, from pulling in to leaving, plus 8 minutes of “off route time” getting to and from the gas station. Depending on the car that might give you 300 miles range. 20 minutes per 300 miles works out to 6.7 minutes per 100 miles traveled...

So practically speaking to maximize speed over ground: if you’re using EA or similar you want to come in on fumes, >5% battery charge, then unplug at 50% state of charge. That’ll have you charging at ~1300 mph. On a supercharger coming in at anywhere from 1-20% is fine, unplug at 60%, charge is...

From the video. I wish they would actually edit…

Moving this here: Charge curves. Miles all based on 450 miles epa range (small wheels): On a supercharger 0-45% / 202 miles) in 15.1 minutes. 60% / 270 miles in 20.4 minutes. On a higher power charger 0-20% / 90 miles) 3.8 minutes, 40% / 180 miles 8 minutes, 60% / 270 miles in 14 minutes.

Charge curves.

These statements are likely both true. The initial decision was made for cosmetic reasons, ie they could make it handle well either way at the design stage. But once they have picked their strategy and designed around it you can’t go back. As I’ve said before, the ABS and other sensors are now...

Note that the Air was tested on a cool day, 48 degrees. So the 2025 Air GT was getting 2.86 miles per KWh, while the 2023 Air GT got 3.09 miles per KWh in 80 degree weather. So there’s at least a 7.5% swing because the test was done at the “wrong” temperature or some other unknown variable, and...

Fair, but let’s see. Your math for drag likely assumes a bigger frontal area than the Gravity has when it lowers, plus I expect the Gravity has a more efficient driveline at speed. The EPA numbers suggest it’s closer to 16% less efficient than the Air GT, which if offset by slightly faster...

My math says the Gravity will get 155 miles in the 10% challenge on a V3 Tesla supercharger (limited to 220 kW) if the car’s on the smaller wheels. Or 183 miles on a 400 KW charger. We’ll know soon, though both will take a hit if they use the car they currently have (it’s on the big rims). The...

Edmunds measures something similar with their “time to add 100 miles range”. Not quite as good as the 10% challenge in some ways, but still useful. This is how 1400 mph held for four minutes would stack up against the current leaderboard (Air GT is in 18th):

Lucid air door, accident image, Tesla S door above. Anyone still think it’s a Tesla?

Guys. The Model S door has a frameless window. That window clearly has a frame.

I prefer to convert KW charge rate to miles per hour, which takes vehicle efficiency into account. By that metric it’s charging at 1400 miles per hour. Really very good vs current competition.

A thought directed at the 57% or so of Dream Edition reservation holders who are opting for the base or mid spec wheels. It’d seem like we could get a list/ thread going with GT buyers who’d be willing to trade wheels. I’d propose splitting the profit: a Dream buyer, for example, who wants the...

@hmp10 I’ve written a lot in this thread, but I think points I’ve made may make more sense now: What you saw above with AMG is essentially what Porsche would do (with two manufactures), and given the type of engineering I’ve seen from Lucid likely very close to their process. That focus on...

Either Already discussed, but I think this video gives significant insight.

Note they say EPA rated range on the website, not estimated. And how many configurations of the Gravity do you think the EPA has tested so far?