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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    Where are you located? If you are actually looking at any of those alternatives I’d educate yourself on the available incentives and programs. Start with the Leasehacker calculator. Paying any of the number you quoted would become criminally bad purchasing right now, as paying MSRP at most...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    General rule of thumb is don’t lease when the interest rate is 8% and your credit union will give you a car loan at 4%. The production lines are designed for quite a high volume- 90k cars per year out of Arizona. As they ramp up they’ll be in a situation where they need to run the line to keep...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    You’re comparing cars with no dealer discounts (Lucid, Rivian) with those that will have heavy discounts and incentives as though they are apples to apples? Does that make sense? You can get a Mercedes EQS 450 SUV for 35 x $999 payment + 5k drive off (which might include some fees not shown...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    Rule of thumb is no money down on the lease. If something happens, ie car gets stolen or totaled, you’re simply out that cash. There are exceptions (ie trying to qualify for a home loan) but in general comparisons should be made with no money down, then compare payments to MSRP. Putting a bunch...
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    [Speculation] Early Gravity Production issues?

    Fewer than Air, but expect issues. No I would not expect significant issues with any new production car. When I got my BMW 1M, Porsche GT4 and GT3 Touring all were free of “bugs”. Asking why is revealing: all were derivatives of existing platforms with limited modifications put out by mature...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    Interestingly the interest rate and residuals largely cancel each other out to result in similar payments for the customer up front: a low interest lowers the lease payment as does a high residual, and above you get one or the other but not both. The big difference comes at the end of the...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    I was thinking the same thing. And the poor air filters. Huge fun, I’ve been to enough Rallycrosses to know that all that dust is not coming fully out without disassembly- these cars aren’t going to showrooms ever. Porsche solved this back in the day by flying us to Northern Finland and setting...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    My biggest issue with Tesla dynamics had to do with regenerative braking, and it’s an area I think (some of) the Germans actually have an advantage, so I’m really hoping Lucid can do better. First let me clarify: the brake pedal on my E-tron GT (and by extension Porsche Taycan) did feel...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    Newer, better than average review here: https://www.motor1.com/reviews/756565/2025-lucid-gravity-first-drive/ “Worrying was the glitchy software in the test cars on hand. None present had the head-up display working, and journalists driving another car reported that the lane-keep assist...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    It’s not “fair”, but it is reality. These are the choices informed consumers now have. If the Gravity is worth $500 more a month today that’s an $1150 lease payment, not $1700, so the real question is if it’s worth $1100 a month more. There will always be those willing to pay to be first for...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    A great GT car from a driver’s perspective- planted, comfortable, quite, balanced, very easy to speed in unintentionally. Very nice interior if a little over-styled. Miles better driver’s car than my previous Tesla, but not a car that you’ll want to get up early to go for a drive in (GT rather...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    If it will be cross shopped or not depends on the individual- plenty here are not taking the 3rd row option, for example, so this will be viable for some, others will look at an EV9 or EX90, etc. Now I happen to believe the Gravity should be better than any of those for my use cases, the...
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    LUCID Gravity Lease vs Finance

    To be blunt I suspect the only way these lease numbers hold up for long is if Lucid ramps production very slowly and remains supply constrained. Because as good as the Gravity might be it’s just not a financially rational option at this level. For example: I note Car and Driver has now ranked...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    I’ve read that the tray table angle is dependent on the seat angle. Meaning if the front seat is tilted forward the rear tray table is tilted upwards when all the way down. They’re using a fish-eye lens in the video and we can’t see the front seat angle well, but my take watching the video was...
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    Lease Gravity

    I suspect as long as they are supply constrained prices will stay high, but I also suspect they won’t stay supply constrained for very long at a >$1.5k lease payment.
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    Lease Gravity

    Leases are intentionally complicated, with many of the numbers buried to obscure the facts. One of the best ways to cut through this is to take the MSRP, subtract any down payment on the lease, and then divide what remains by the lease payment to get the number of months (years) you’d own the...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    Given the choice any automotive company will position themselves as a “technology company”; the valuation multiples are far superior. It’s no accident that Tesla has been pushing the “tech company” narrative hard for the last decade, from full self driving to autonomous taxis to the “Optimus”...
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    The press release has $94,900, the website adds 1650 destination fee and 75 doc fee for 96,625 total. I’m not sure where the extra $25 went. I’ll also note that they are calling it a 2026 model year: https://ir.lucidmotors.com/node/9956/pdf
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    Jalopnik says 5904 and 6048 lbs, respectively. Usually that's in the press packet, I'm surprised they have different numbers. https://www.jalopnik.com/1833486/2025-lucid-gravity-suv-first-drive/
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    The Press Embargo Has Been Lifted

    Actual con from auto guide: I'd have thought Lucid would be over this: "There was another problem with the car refusing to acknowledge the fob. My driving partner and I had stopped on the side of the road to swap seats, and when attempting to get going again, we got a warning message that the...
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