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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    Got it, and it looks like it's got proportional torque? Do we know the rating in lbs feet? Gear ratio is 7:1? If so that says they have headroom to push torque rearwards. Probably brings my 0-60 estimate for the Dream down to 2.6-2.7 seconds and addresses my main concern. Porsche and...
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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    I fully agree the DE was always part of the plan. Virtually every modern car is developed as a modular platform, with the powertrain options sketched out from the start. Here is the question that needs asking/ answering: what is the maximum power and torque output of each of the Dream motors...
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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    Well we know the GT’s not battery pack limited if it indeed shares everything else with the Dream. Usually power limits are thermal related, meaning if everything is cool there’s more on the table. Hence all those “5-10 second over-boost” functions the German cars often get. Keep your foot down...
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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    To clarify I expect it’s the Dream edition that will be electronically limited. Lucid will need to limit it to about 85-90% of its torque and power potential up to ~60 mph because there’s not enough traction to use it all. That assumes straight line acceleration, cornering will cut it back...
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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    There’s no doubt all of this is reading tea leaves at this point. The proof will be in the pudding, and even then it will be subjective. I know someone who swore up and down that his Tesla Model 3 was more fun to drive than his Boxster. Obviously for him it was, while I could scarcely stomach...
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    Choosing gravity GT vs DE

    I’m in the GGT camp on this one. In the Porsche and BMW worlds one learned to recognize the difference between “optimized” cars and those that were “parts bin”. The implication here was usually that parts bin cars are inherently inferior, but that’s not always the case. Some were in fact high...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    Do we know the offsets and widths of of the wheels yet? Without that we can’t be sure if the front wheel will clear the rear without interference, we’d also need to check clearance to steering knuckles if we used the smallest front wheel. Re diameter the short answer it’s not great to have that...
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    Temporary car...

    Hertz also does Model Ys (mostly for Uber drivers) at $40 per day in my area as long term rentals.
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    Temporary car...

    I'd also check this out to see if there's an option to assume someone else's lease that looks attractive. Can get you into the ~6 months range if you get lucky: https://www.swapalease.com/lease/search.aspx
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    I’ll try to lend a little perspective that might help. Mostly by asking you what you really care about. How much do you really care about speed, for example? Once upon a time having a faster car was simply better. Today that's less and less clear. Extreme acceleration is a hell of a party trick...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    Could well be. If true everything previous scales, the question becomes if the car makes enough power to hold constant acceleration all the way to 60 mph. And that tracks: a 5850 lb car needs about 930 hp at the wheels to accelerate at .98 Gs at 60 mph (the exact number depends on air resistance...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    Just for fun- pulling this thread we can speculate. This is likely to prove wrong in time, but it’s interesting anyway. A 1070 hp Gravity with two identical motors would work out to 535 hp each. Given that the GT makes 828 that suggests the front GT motor makes 293 hp, giving the GT a 35.4%...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    I have no special insight here, but as others have said as long as they haven’t increased brake rotor /caliper size (and I highly doubt they have to that extent) the 20s and 21s should work just fine.
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    I’d be looking for language indicating which parts of the warranty are transferable. There are some cases where warranties are not, for example Genesis has a 10 year, 100k mile powertrain warranty that is not transferable to a new owner (only the first 5 years or 60k miles transfers). But that’s...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    There are a lot of misconceptions around this stuff, part of the reason I sometimes feel the need to jump in to offer corrections. The engineer’s note above about the larger rear calipers is spot on: it indicates less forward weight transfer under braking for the same reasons (low CG height...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    Not true. The weight transfer to the rear is a pretty simple physics problem that involves the height and longitudinal position of the center of gravity, the wheelbase and the longitudinal G forces. To use simple numbers if the center of gravity is 1 meter high and 1 meter in front of the rear...
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    Dream Edition aiyoooo!

    I don't think Lucid's out of touch, I think you just don't like how the game is played. And frankly I don't love it either, but I like it more than many of the alternatives. Example: walk in to buy a new Corvette near the beginning of the model run and the dealer will have their hand out to...
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    "Announced CEO transition..." Rawlinson out as CEO

    No question he was forced out. "Advisor to the Chairman of the Board" is telegraphing to the community that a change was required and has been enacted. As a technical founder of multiple startups myself I both marveled at Peter's ability to span the detailed technical role as well as manage...
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    Gravity Release Timeline

    The confusion stems from the fact that while most manufactures will make an early “manufacturing verification batch” or similar on a fresh production line, most don’t talk about it let alone announce the “start of production”. Typically these steps are hidden so that when the positive PR hits...
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    Gravity Orders Discussion

    Sorry for the diversion.
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