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Moving this here: Charge curves. Miles all based on 450 miles epa range (small wheels): On a supercharger 0-45% / 202 miles) in 15.1 minutes. 60% / 270 miles in 20.4 minutes. On a higher power charger 0-20% / 90 miles) 3.8 minutes, 40% / 180 miles 8 minutes, 60% / 270 miles in 14 minutes.

Charge curves.

These statements are likely both true. The initial decision was made for cosmetic reasons, ie they could make it handle well either way at the design stage. But once they have picked their strategy and designed around it you can’t go back. As I’ve said before, the ABS and other sensors are now...

Note that the Air was tested on a cool day, 48 degrees. So the 2025 Air GT was getting 2.86 miles per KWh, while the 2023 Air GT got 3.09 miles per KWh in 80 degree weather. So there’s at least a 7.5% swing because the test was done at the “wrong” temperature or some other unknown variable, and...

Fair, but let’s see. Your math for drag likely assumes a bigger frontal area than the Gravity has when it lowers, plus I expect the Gravity has a more efficient driveline at speed. The EPA numbers suggest it’s closer to 16% less efficient than the Air GT, which if offset by slightly faster...

My math says the Gravity will get 155 miles in the 10% challenge on a V3 Tesla supercharger (limited to 220 kW) if the car’s on the smaller wheels. Or 183 miles on a 400 KW charger. We’ll know soon, though both will take a hit if they use the car they currently have (it’s on the big rims). The...

Edmunds measures something similar with their “time to add 100 miles range”. Not quite as good as the 10% challenge in some ways, but still useful. This is how 1400 mph held for four minutes would stack up against the current leaderboard (Air GT is in 18th):

Lucid air door, accident image, Tesla S door above. Anyone still think it’s a Tesla?

Guys. The Model S door has a frameless window. That window clearly has a frame.

I prefer to convert KW charge rate to miles per hour, which takes vehicle efficiency into account. By that metric it’s charging at 1400 miles per hour. Really very good vs current competition.

A thought directed at the 57% or so of Dream Edition reservation holders who are opting for the base or mid spec wheels. It’d seem like we could get a list/ thread going with GT buyers who’d be willing to trade wheels. I’d propose splitting the profit: a Dream buyer, for example, who wants the...

@hmp10 I’ve written a lot in this thread, but I think points I’ve made may make more sense now: What you saw above with AMG is essentially what Porsche would do (with two manufactures), and given the type of engineering I’ve seen from Lucid likely very close to their process. That focus on...

Either Already discussed, but I think this video gives significant insight.

Note they say EPA rated range on the website, not estimated. And how many configurations of the Gravity do you think the EPA has tested so far?

The clip I’m referring to here, goes to about minute 43 for those that haven’t seen it.

I’ve actually gone on very few test drives for cars I bought. Often because I was getting a car where that simply wasn’t an option, but also because I knew enough to not need one. BMW 1M, Porsche GT4, GT3 Touring, etc. And while driving some of these cars did turn out differently than I’d...

Thanks. So these screen shots from your video look like the opposite. So I can’t tell…

In both one of the shots above and this one I believe I see noticeable positive camber on the rear wheels at max ride height. That look goes away when the car is lowered: Maybe we can get some additional angles of the wheels to confirm.

I did the math previously, but basically you want around a 1/3 front, 2/3 rear power split at this level of acceleration. That will load all tires equally in a straight line. To do that you need to be able to put a bit over 700 hp through the rear motor and more like 360 up front. Headroom would...

Power out of corners would be a very big problem. In the ranges we're talking about more width equals slightly more traction. It doesn't, that was my misconception. It uses the same motors front and rear but have headroom, so they overdrive the rear and underdrive the front to get an optimal...