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    Out of Spec - Gravity vs Escalade

    Does this not represent amazing news that Lucid has shipped a few review models? Or am I misinterpreting?
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    Gravity Orders Discussion

    I am concerned. I think you'll find most on here are not. I agree that the Saudi PIF is a very strong financial backer with basically unendingly deep pockets and a strategic interest in diversifying off oil. That's the strongest argument for why they won't go under. The PIF may not even...
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    Gravity About to Go On a Car Carrier

    I was joking, I was just trying to make HMP's head explode. ;)
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    Gravity About to Go On a Car Carrier

    I didn’t see anything in that video, other than maybe what looks like a minivan parked next to one of the car carriers?
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    Gravity specs we'd like to know

    What does "later availability" mean for Lunar Titanium? What do the wheels really look like in platinum and stealth? The photos are kind of hard to see and appreciate in the configurator. How dark are stealth wheels, really? Are they black or more of a grey? In general, I think we need MANY...
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    Gravity Orders Discussion

    From that inside EVs article: "It’s also been conducting testing with Tesla Superchargers, seeing as the Gravity will ship from the factory with Tesla’s previously exclusive charging port design. (It’s one of the first such models since the entire auto industry announced it would migrate to...
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    My Biggest Concern with Gravity

    Haha, thanks all. I'm not bald but I'm thinking this won't be an issue for me. (fyi I'm mid-atlantic so it's probably not as bad for me as it would be in Florida or Arizona) I'd probably tint before using sun shades - I can't imagine those don't sag or start to look funny, but either way it's...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    Huh, interesting re: Tryon. I guess Lucid must be guaranteeing the vehicle at a certain price then. BofA is not going to want to own a car they have to sell and write down.
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    My Biggest Concern with Gravity

    I have a Tesla S with the all-glass roof; it's 7+ years old so I don't know exactly what generation of roof it was, but I've never had any complaints about the car being hard to cool or unreasonably hot and/or sunny inside. It is fairly darkly tinted. I've heard complaints on here about...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    Agree there is no way BofA is doing more than taking interest and servicing the loan; they are not speculating on used car values other than perhaps as security on the loan. From Lucid's Site: "Lucid Motors manufactures and sells electric vehicles and ancillary products and services. Bank of...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    residual would normally be calculated as a %age of the capital cost of the vehicle, not MSRP. Wolfman's point is that you can't pay 544/month for 18 months (total of $9,792) and have it make up the difference between $69,900-41,992 = $27,908. Your actual capital cost was far less than 69,900...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    Yeah… off msrp. Looks like they’re discounting the sale price very heavily too. Agree that 55-60% is a market residual on a 36 month lease, but usually when you’re talking about residuals it’s as a %age of capital cost. I guess leasing this way and heavily discounting helps prop up msrp for...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    Residual values are often expressed as a %age of the purchase price of the car. The leasing company is buying the car for $X dollars. At the end of the lease, the leasing company is setting a value $Y dollars that everyone is agreeing the car will be worth. In a lease, you are essentially...
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    Lease Deals are INSANELY GREAT

    It's not necessarily a guarantee that leasing is better if you intend to buy the car. It is true that you get a $7500 price reduction because the leasing company gets the benefit of the EV tax credit and will apply it to the cost of the vehicle, and you do not as an individual. So there is a...
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    Gravity Orders Discussion

    I have the biggest wheels on my order for now, but I think it's increasingly likely I'll pull back to the midsize for so many reasons: smoother ride lower chance of bent rims tire availability (this is a major point, i don't know how many tires are even available for the largest rim) all-season...
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    First pre-production Gravity reviews are coming in

    Just stating the obvious here, but: From a purely utilitarian standpoint, the ideal embodiment of a practical vehicle for carrying people and their stuff is a box on wheels - a minivan. It's a shame that "shape" is so unfashionable. I think it's kind of insane that people buy things like...
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    Size Comparison

    It's not high. Watch any of the videos that just came out - the Out Of Spec Reviews might be a good one to see it. It's described in multiple videos as being very low - ie top of kneecap low. I know that's not a universal unit of measure, but it's much lower than a typical SUV would be.
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    How is the Press Responding to the opening of Gravity Orders?

    I'm very sad that the rumored Dec. 9 embargo appears to have been no more than just a rumor :( That said, I can't believe that a serious in-depth review could possibly be shot, edited, and released in a week, esp. if it's the kind of in-depth stuff we'd typically see from Throttle House and...
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    Production started YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!

    I may be one of the few who is happy for NACS mainly for the reason that I have a tesla charger at my home already and don't need to do anything to change that. I am planning to keep my Model S and it will be nice to be able to plug either car in on the same charger without any adapters.
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    How is the Press Responding to the opening of Gravity Orders?

    I guess sanctuary mode is kind of an interesting little trick, but to me it's more like "emissions testing mode" in my Tesla - something kind of neat and funny but probably didn't take too long to "engineer" and is not the kind of thing the vast majority of people are going to use more than once...
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