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Radar cruise control with excellent lane keeping (no ping ponging) able to manage corners on the highway, along with the ability the fully manage stop and go traffic is all I want. Our Model X had advanced autopilot. We only used it on highway road-trips or in stop and go traffic around our...

Farmers now lists the DE and Grand Touring on their site. However their prices are ridiculous, so I’m going to shop around.

I will most likely take delivery without seeing one in person. If there weren't media reviews or if the reviews were terrible, I would have either passed or at a minimum required a test drive. I'm pretty confident it will be an amazing vehicle to drive. My bigger concern is the software and...

Once a GT order gets a VIN I'll believe production has started. Remember this could be sub-assemblies (doors, seats, powertrain) that may not actually go into a vehicle for weeks.

Agreed. However the count on Wednesday was 131 and 115 today. So at least 16 cars left the lot, must likely going to customers.

Confirmed 11-15. No updates from my DA.

Has anyone required transport to a service center out of state? They don't have plans for a Colorado service center at the moment. My guess is Scottsdale or Houston would be the closest. Curious how this is handled.

The motors are probably the same, but my guess is there is a difference in wiring and electronics. Think of it like charging the car. Higher charging speeds require a lot of upgraded hardware. The AGT with 800hp (596kW) pulls a lot less power at peak compared to the ADE P with 1111hp (828kW)...

There are several of us with Grand Touring reservations who are on the Dream wait list. I was told all of the Dreams are spoken for, but they would reach out if one does become available last minute.

20k per year is 385 per week. My guess is they have capacity at the factory to build 400-500 per week. Once they work out the bugs, assuming they aren't supply chain limited, cars will start moving quickly out of the factory. Typical production ramp up. I doubt they will hit 20k this year...

Same here. Originally put a deposit on an AT. Once it was clear I would end up choosing every option, and figured the price would get close to the AGT, we changed our reservation.

Don't tease...... :)

If #295 was delivered (they aren't delivered in order obviously) the means there is a reasonable chance 200-300 have been delivered and another 135 DE's sit at the factory. Another 4 weeks of 30-50 cars per week will complete the DE build. So I think there is a reasonable chance AGT's start...

Lucid at least seems to want to correct these issues. Tesla appears to have given up on fit and finish.

We are looking at March for the first AGT deliveries.

I'd love to hear how it compares to the Taycan as well.

An interesting comment in the InsideEVs podcast discussing the range test. They claimed that Tesla doesn't report all of the energy used by the car in the instrument cluster. They only report the energy going to the motors. Almost all other manufacturers (including Lucid) report all energy used...

The cells are 70mm tall, so about 2.75". Add in the housing and other components and you probably lose about 4" of height measured from the floor to the seat. So your legs sit up a little higher in the Dream and GT with the larger battery pack.

Yep. We regularly drive to summit county to go skiing. It's 250 miles round trip in freezing cold temperatures. Every EV I have owned (Model X LR, E-tron, Taycan, Polestar) has not been able to make the round trip without charging. The Air is the first EV I'm confident could make the trip...

We don't know the size of the Lucid Air Pure battery pack. At this point I would assume a 400 mile EPA rated range. If it achieves a similar level of efficiency on the 70mph test compared to the Lucid Air Dream (4% loss versus EPA) then you are looking at closer to 385 miles. I would take...