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Cosmos incoming ……

gaskiller said:
I think Tesla software is good but rest of the car is cheaply made, uninspiring interiors, poor ride and handling, lack of buttons is stupid. So we are never buying another Tesla. We prefer luxury interiors and a good drivers car.
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Yes, their cheap quality makes them the most selling car in the world.
 
watermelonrooste said:
Yes, their cheap quality makes them the most selling car in the world.
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Cheap cars always sell more….. it’s not a bad cheaply made car. It’s just not nice inside compared to other competitors. I prefer luxury, not tacky minimalisms.

And there are safety concerns with how Tesla designs there interiors- no buttons, no driver instrument panel, no gear shift, no Lidar or radar….i don’t want my car made by a manufacturer who cuts corners.

I’m anti Tesla, you are never going to convince me otherwise so please stop wasting everyone’s time!
 
watermelonrooste said:
Yes, their cheap quality makes them the most selling car in the world.
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Don't knock it! That what made VW and Toyota!

Seriously, "gee-Weeze High Tech" is great. But it has to work.

The top niche of automobiles will not be able to sustain a company like Lucid. Look at Jaguar!

For Lucid to stay afloat, it must be relevant in the sub $50k space. The BMW 3 series!
 
gaskiller said:
Cheap cars always sell more….. it’s not a bad cheaply made car. It’s just not nice inside compared to other competitors. I prefer luxury, not tacky minimalisms.

And there are safety concerns with how Tesla designs there interiors- no buttons, no driver instrument panel, no gear shift, no Lidar or radar….i don’t want my car made by a manufacturer who cuts corners.

I’m anti Tesla, you are never going to convince me otherwise so please stop wasting everyone’s time!
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No physical buttons you say. This was yesterday, when my side panel turn off and it started raining and I could access wiper controls. I had to drive very slowly to find a rest area and reset the car. There is no physical button for wipers in Lucid, something that actually counts. Tesla atleast allows you to reset the computer whle you are driving. I am not against Lucid or any other company, I am just againt Carbage.
 

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watermelonrooste said:
No physical buttons you say. This was yesterday, when my side panel turn off and it started raining and I could access wiper controls. I had to drive very slowly to find a rest area and reset the car. There is no physical button for wipers in Lucid, something that actually counts. Tesla atleast allows you to reset the computer whle you are driving. I am not against Lucid or any other company, I am just againt Carbage.
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The Gravity has physical button for wipers…the Air doesn’t?
 
Marketing and advertising are not Lucid's problem. There's a Lucid Studio right under my building in Seaport, the most expensive neighborhood in Boston, in some of the most expensive buildings in the city. Residents here range from professionals and NFL, NBA, and NHL players to company CEOs. Our garage holds hundreds of cars, from Toyota to Bentleys, and only two of them are Lucids.


We regularly get invitations from the studio for test drives and block parties, and they're practically begging people to take a test drive. There's always a Gravity parked outside the store for people to try. But nobody wants to test drive it, and nobody wants to buy this Carbage.


Lucid needs to focus on quality, not marketing. But of course, this company is being run very intelligently, as its history clearly shows.
 

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gaskiller said:
Only challenge was proof of concept. Tesla got billions in Gov money. Musk feeds off our taxes, or haven’t you noticed.
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Lucid also got billions in gov money... Saudi government
 
Northpointe said:
Q2 earnings call. And initial deliveries will be in the KSA. We might see a few US deliveries in late 2027 but I wouldn’t bet on it. They’re putting an emphasis on getting it right out of the gate. I’m guessing sales won’t scale up until 2028. And frankly they need the time. There are service centers right now where the backlog and repair time is approaching a quarter. And the stated goal of improving wait times by 30% doesn’t put a big dent in that. They need to put some distance between the service center issues and the new model launch. And keep in mind that a significant part of the backlog is resolving production issues which Silvio Napoli acknowledged have occurred because their products were rushed to market.
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From the call transcript:

Napoli: "Based on the work underway today, we expect AMP-2 to be ready for production in early 2027, ready to run Midsize production in the second half of the year."

Napoli: "Cosmos will be the first vehicle produced at our new AMP-2 factory and the first model from our Midsize platform."

<sigh>
 
gaskiller said:
Lucid doesn't suck, a significant majority are very satisfied customers. No need to come here to disparage the company watermelon.
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You really need to put this guy on ignore. I’ve seen more clarity from drunks and stoners.

If he/she/them were honest then I wouldn’t have ignored them but they aren’t here for honest conversation. But this isn’t tikky took so I’m not allowed to troll them. But I’m allowed too ignore and not engage with them.
 
watermelonrooste said:
8 billion
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Tesla got more....20 billion....if you add regulatory credits/loans/ev credits. Without California support, Tesla would not exist. And yes, Lucid wouldn't exist without Saudi. So please be truthful and admit that Tesla would have be bankrupt without US Gov support.

And BTW, you've just been blocked, I've had enough of your nonsense trolling.
 
Aka-none said:
You really need to put this guy on ignore. I’ve seen more clarity from drunks and stoners.

If he/she/them were honest then I wouldn’t have ignored them but they aren’t here for honest conversation. But this isn’t tikky took so I’m not allowed to troll them. But I’m allowed too ignore and not engage with them.
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Thank you for the suggestion....now I can live in peace....
 
A beautifully produced video about brilliantly designed automobiles. It captures the essence on my experience with Air GTs for four years. Gravity on order now.
 
Lucid's service woes can only be fixed by building more reliable cars. It's the same story that Tesla and Rivian went through, and are still going through in Rivian's case. But, all three of these companies needed to sell more cars to have the cash flow to survive. None of these companies have the luxury of the established automakers to make money with other models while they took the time to get things right with their new cars.

Honestly, I would be incredibly surprised if early builds of Cosmos were bulletproof. The history of new carmakers says otherwise. Lucid's own history says otherwise. And they're building it in a country with a complete lack of history in auto manufacturing.
 
erigion said:
Lucid's service woes can only be fixed by building more reliable cars. It's the same story that Tesla and Rivian went through, and are still going through in Rivian's case. But, all three of these companies needed to sell more cars to have the cash flow to survive. None of these companies have the luxury of the established automakers to make money with other models while they took the time to get things right with their new cars.

Honestly, I would be incredibly surprised if early builds of Cosmos were bulletproof. The history of new carmakers says otherwise. Lucid's own history says otherwise. And they're building it in a country with a complete lack of history in auto manufacturing.
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Yes, I suspect they won't make the same exact mistakes as with Air and Gravity, but some other weird thing will undoubtedly pop up. Atlas motors will be new. Hopefully the basic stuff that has been solved for ages with other cars like trim staying connected, window regulators, steering columns are not there again.
 
illopp00 said:
Yes, I suspect they won't make the same exact mistakes as with Air and Gravity, but some other weird thing will undoubtedly pop up. Atlas motors will be new. Hopefully the basic stuff that has been solved for ages with other cars like trim staying connected, window regulators, steering columns are not there again.
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Could not agree more. Expecting perfection out of the gate is a sure fire way to set yourself up for disappointment.

The hope is that because Cosmos is easier to build (just fewer parts, and the benefit of years of design / factory experience) it will have far fewer issues out of the gate, and those issues will be fixable quickly.

Anything that comes off an assembly line will have the occasional dud. That's inevitable. It's when every car coming off the line immediately needs maintenance the you have a real problem.
 
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