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DOBrien

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Greetings,
The 2023 factory installed 19-inch tires that came with my Air GT were the Pirelli P-Zero 245 /45 R19 units with the sound-absorbing pads on the inner walls. Those tires failed (one failed catastrophically, the other three were worn out) at 11,000 miles because Lucid installed them at the wrong pressure programmed in the computer and with the wrong pressure on the door badge. Lucid did nothing for me (as usual), but that's another story. I replaced them at their recommended shop, but the factory recommended Pirelli P-Zero 245 /45 R19 102Y DO NOT have the sound padding in them. The padded Pirellis are "no longer available". I now have 23,000 miles on them and they are wearing evenly. However, they are noticeably noisier, probably due to the missing sound suppressors. I'm getting close to replacing them and would like recommendations on a quieter tire. I'm seeing tires offered for the car from $174 a tire to almost $400. I drive the car like my Grandmother, not interested in hard cornering, and I don't posses a lead foot. If anyone has an experience with a quiet and safe tire, I'd be interested. Thanks in advance! BTW, this is a lesson in proper tire pressure for our Lucids... don't let them run low on pressure!
 
Coyote said:
Hancook ION EVO. Great tire unless you are a performance driver. Very quiet and good for range.
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Love them on my Gravity. They aren't too keen to stop or turn, but are very quiet and comfortable.
 
I'd also consider the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 (Elect/PNCS version).
The hankook for comfort (less noise) and higher treadwear warranty (55k vs 50k miles), but the Pirelli if you prioritize a more responsive/sportier feel with better wet traction and dry braking/cornering.
 
DOBrien said:
Greetings,
The 2023 factory installed 19-inch tires that came with my Air GT were the Pirelli P-Zero 245 /45 R19 units with the sound-absorbing pads on the inner walls. Those tires failed (one failed catastrophically, the other three were worn out) at 11,000 miles because Lucid installed them at the wrong pressure programmed in the computer and with the wrong pressure on the door badge. Lucid did nothing for me (as usual), but that's another story. I replaced them at their recommended shop, but the factory recommended Pirelli P-Zero 245 /45 R19 102Y DO NOT have the sound padding in them. The padded Pirellis are "no longer available". I now have 23,000 miles on them and they are wearing evenly. However, they are noticeably noisier, probably due to the missing sound suppressors. I'm getting close to replacing them and would like recommendations on a quieter tire. I'm seeing tires offered for the car from $174 a tire to almost $400. I drive the car like my Grandmother, not interested in hard cornering, and I don't posses a lead foot. If anyone has an experience with a quiet and safe tire, I'd be interested. Thanks in advance! BTW, this is a lesson in proper tire pressure for our Lucids... don't let them run low on pressure!
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Are you sure about this? I see the OEM 19-inch all season tires LM1 available on Tire Rack.

 
Professor Y Cars said:
Are you sure about this? I see the OEM 19-inch all season tires LM1 available on Tire Rack.

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Yes, I'm fully aware that Tire Rack and others have that size for Lucid. I was getting at the fact that the Lucid-recommended tires that came with my car are no longer available. The NEW recommended tires are noisier. I'm looking for quieter tires of any brand.
 
DOBrien said:
Yes, I'm fully aware that Tire Rack and others have that size for Lucid. I was getting at the fact that the Lucid-recommended tires that came with my car are no longer available. The NEW recommended tires are noisier. I'm looking for quieter tires of any brand.
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It's hard to say what's "quieter" because most people have no ability to A/B any tires that aren't the ones they just put on their car, but I will say that if you liked the Pirellis and just are upset about the noise, you can get the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 with the noise suppressors (which are little blocks of high density foam that go around the treads, you just have to select the option that has "PNCS (Pirelli Noice Cancelling System)" - it's a few bucks extra. Same load index and speed rating (102 Y), ELECT version available. Unless that's what you got?

By my understanding this is basically the newer version of the OEM tire, and I will say I am a big fan.
 
DOBrien said:
Yes, I'm fully aware that Tire Rack and others have that size for Lucid. I was getting at the fact that the Lucid-recommended tires that came with my car are no longer available. The NEW recommended tires are noisier. I'm looking for quieter tires of any brand.
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Sorry, I'm trying to help, but you're not making any sense to me.

The attached image is from Tire Rack right now. It's marked as Original Equipment, and it specifically is the same Pirelli brand and same P Zero All Season tires as the OEM 19's.

It's also the correct size, speed rating, and load, and it also says LM1 Lucid. That means it's the original tire. If it was an updated version of the same tire it would likely say LM2 (they did that for the 21-inch summer tires.

It also says PNCS, which specifically means that it is the foam version.

Your messages here seems to indicate that this tire is the exact same tire that your car came with, but you also indicate it is no longer available, and whatever new version doesn't come with foam. These show otherwise.

What am I missing??

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DOBrien said:
The 2023 factory installed 19-inch tires that came with my Air GT were the Pirelli P-Zero 245 /45 R19 units with the sound-absorbing pads on the inner walls.
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I have been through six Pirelli P Zero in the 21” and now have to replace a punctured Pirelli 19”. All within four years. I have concluded that the P Zeroes are dog water. If I can’t patch the puncture in the 19” I am sucking it up and swapping all of that garbage out for Michelin Sport all-seasons.

- T
 
I have switched my AGT from the Pirelli 21" Summers to the 19" fitment with All Season Bridgestone Turanza EV's. I have really liked them so far, nice and quiet. Excellent control in Wet/Slippery conditions. Would recommend. We also have Turanza EV's fitted on our Hybrid X3 for the last year or so, excellent on that vehicle as well.
 
tmwong said:
I have been through six Pirelli P Zero in the 21” and now have to replace a punctured Pirelli 19”. All within four years. I have concluded that the P Zeroes are dog water. If I can’t patch the puncture in the 19” I am sucking it up and swapping all of that garbage out for Michelin Sport all-seasons.

- T
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Update: The puncture was too close to the sidewall so since I was looking at replacing two Pirellis I opted to swap everything out for a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4.

- T
 

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tmwong said:
Update: The puncture was too close to the sidewall so since I was looking at replacing two Pirellis I opted to swap everything out for a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4.

- T
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Let us know your thoughts on the Michelins once you’ve put a few miles on them in varying conditions. I am thinking about those as well.
 
Is there a particular advantage of using the regular Pilot Sports over the Pilot Sport EV version?
 
tmwong said:
I have been through six Pirelli P Zero in the 21” and now have to replace a punctured Pirelli 19”. All within four years. I have concluded that the P Zeroes are dog water. If I can’t patch the puncture in the 19” I am sucking it up and swapping all of that garbage out for Michelin Sport all-seasons.

- T
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Why are you insulting dog water like that?
 
Lucidale said:
Let us know your thoughts on the Michelins once you’ve put a few miles on them in varying conditions. I am thinking about those as well.
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I've had them on my AT 20" wheels since December and they've been great, in snow, rain and summer.
 
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