Q2 Earnings Call

Might I ask which SC?

Got a compelling offer to lease a gravity touring. Weighing whether I trust company will be around in 12-24 months? Service/support. They said Dallas is supposed to get a service center built soon.
I am based out of Dallas and have been an owner of an Air since the last 2+ years. Mobile techs here are top-notch and I have not needed a service center visit so far. Only routine maintenance that they do at home. I have it on good authority that a service center is opening up in the October timeframe, and it will be much bigger than Houston, with possibly 10-12 bays. That will be amazing!!

Lucid is not going anywhere, and I am looking forward to Gravity next year.
 
Outofspec already posted that they have issues with dreamdrive. And in their first video they have a small hiccup of things not loading.
I have been seeing his updates on X, and it seems it has been positive so far, including his comments to replies. He did have some issues with lane keep, and it didn't do hands-free due to a bug in some vehicles, and he seems to have been aware of it from the get-go. I am hoping for a positive review.
 
Outofspec already posted that they have issues with dreamdrive. And in their first video they have a small hiccup of things not loading.
I wish people, including so called expert reviewers, understand the fact that autonomous driving is still in infancy. Don’t expect it to be perfect.

Just drive the damn car with your hands I say!
 
I wish people, including so called expert reviewers, understand the fact that autonomous driving is still in infancy. Don’t expect it to be perfect.

Just drive the damn car with your hands I say!
And exactly how will people come to understand this fact without seeing and hearing about its operation and reliability?

Autonomous driving is the biggest leap in automotive technology in our lifetime. It’s a capability that many drivers are still trying to familiarize themselves with. Many buyers are either looking for this feature or weighing whether or not it’s an option worth paying a premium for. For buyers it’s essential to gain the knowledge and insight these reviews can provide. While you might not like the criticism of the tech, and feel that people should just know that it’s imperfect, it is for many an incredibly valuable piece of information.

And as a reminder, this is a company that’s betting heavily on Gravity robotaxis. I don’t think their go to market messaging will be “don’t expect it to be perfect.”
 
I wish people, including so called expert reviewers, understand the fact that autonomous driving is still in infancy. Don’t expect it to be perfect.

Just drive the damn car with your hands I say!
We can also say just make a damn car that unlocks like basic i say!

It’s not about what the status of the technology is. It’s about how it is in the current car they are testing. Also they are not asking for a Jetson-level of technology, comparing with what the other competitors are similar costs provide.
 
I wish people, including so called expert reviewers, understand the fact that autonomous driving is still in infancy. Don’t expect it to be perfect.

Just drive the damn car with your hands I say!
I think the problem is that autonomous driving might kill you if it doesn't work well. Or to put it another way, being behind the wheel when autonomous driving goes wrong can be a scary experience. Compare that to early traction control systems, which didn't always work well, but the experience of driving a bad one tended to just not produce better traction, and you mostly lost grip when you would have expected to with your prior car. I don't think we're ever likely to find the average driver not minding autonomous driving flaws. At least, not until they're all annoyance level, rather than being scary.
 
We can also say just make a damn car that unlocks like basic i say!

It’s not about what the status of the technology is. It’s about how it is in the current car they are testing. Also they are not asking for a Jetson-level of technology, comparing with what the other competitors are similar costs provide.
Yeah whatever DreamDrive issue they had in Colorado resolved and it is working fine now apparently. Overall it does seem like they are pretty positive on the Gravity from their X posts. I’m eager to see the full video reviews from them though.

Also fascinated to see some owners here seemingly rooting for them to have a bad experience (?!). Bizarre to say the least. 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
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Silvio mentioned in a recent interview that “Lucids next capital raise will be very good news for investors and shareholders…” I’m guessing that means limiting dilution or perhaps a new large investor taking a share in the company?
I read it as "We'll still be in business and successfully implementing our business plan". :)
 
And exactly how will people come to understand this fact without seeing and hearing about its operation and reliability?

Autonomous driving is the biggest leap in automotive technology in our lifetime. It’s a capability that many drivers are still trying to familiarize themselves with. Many buyers are either looking for this feature or weighing whether or not it’s an option worth paying a premium for. For buyers it’s essential to gain the knowledge and insight these reviews can provide. While you might not like the criticism of the tech, and feel that people should just know that it’s imperfect, it is for many an incredibly valuable piece of information.

And as a reminder, this is a company that’s betting heavily on Gravity robotaxis. I don’t think their go to market messaging will be “don’t expect it to be perfect.”
Except that getting familiar with hopping in a true robotaxi when summoning a ride is very different than supervising semi-autonomy as a driver.

When regulators approve the first one, people know it had to pass a much higher hurdle for safety and dependability. While the second is "Well, it'll get there". Thus why it requires supervision like a 5yo learning to ride a bike for the first time while the anxious parent is running alongside waiting for the crash.

All these manufacturers are following the Tesla lead of using customers as crash test dummies to test their self-driving tech (minus the intentional crashing). A practice that gives me some pause. Maybe it's the only realistic way to get to the end goal of unsupervised robotaxis, but I for one have chosen to pass on that half-in phase. I'll do my own steering until then. True robotaxis will be great in the future. The timing should be good for me as that's about the age I'll need to stop driving anyway. 😎
 
We can also say just make a damn car that unlocks like basic i say!

It’s not about what the status of the technology is. It’s about how it is in the current car they are testing. Also they are not asking for a Jetson-level of technology, comparing with what the other competitors are similar costs provide.
No competitor has a fully functional autonomous car. Regarding unlocking, it’s fixed, go look at other customer reviews. Yeah, occasionally a 5 sec lag time, but that’s nothing.
 
Except that getting familiar with hopping in a true robotaxi when summoning a ride is very different than supervising semi-autonomy as a driver.

When regulators approve the first one, people know it had to pass a much higher hurdle for safety and dependability. While the second is "Well, it'll get there". Thus why it requires supervision like a 5yo learning to ride a bike for the first time while the anxious parent is running alongside waiting for the crash.

All these manufacturers are following the Tesla lead of using customers as crash test dummies to test their self-driving tech (minus the intentional crashing). A practice that gives me some pause. Maybe it's the only realistic way to get to the end goal of unsupervised robotaxis, but I for one have chosen to pass on that half-in phase. I'll do my own steering until then. True robotaxis will be great in the future. The timing should be good for me as that's about the age I'll need to stop driving anyway. 😎
Even Tesla sucks at autonomy….they may be ahead of others but they still suck- from personal experience. And I’m never putting my life in a Tesla computers hands when we all know it makes mistakes and has NO redundancy.

Only company I trust is Waymo.

Yeah, future is robotaxi, but it will get at least another decade to get there for consumer cars.
 
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No competitor has a fully functional autonomous car. Regarding unlocking, it’s fixed, go look at other customer reviews. Yeah, occasionally a 5 sec lag time, but that’s nothing.
I wouldn't quite go as far as to say it's "fixed", but it is way better than it was (for me anyway). I'm running about 90% success now, which is way better than it was. But I've still had a few 15-20 second delays since 3.6.3.

Going from 30% success (opening right away upon walk-up) to 90% is great, but it's still subpar compared to every other car I've owned. So, still a work in progress.
 
Even Tesla sucks at autonomy….they may be ahead of others but they still suck- from personal experience. And I’m never putting my life in a Tesla computers hands when we all know it makes mistakes and has NO redundancy.

Only company I trust is Waymo.

Yeah, future is robotaxi, but it will get at least another decade to get there for consumer cars.
Zoox looks great. Love the vehicle design. It's so practical for that purpose, in a way that a regular car design isn't. And I appreciate that Waymo and Zoox are getting there without using the public as guinea pigs to test their autonomy.
 
No competitor has a fully functional autonomous car. Regarding unlocking, it’s fixed, go look at other customer reviews. Yeah, occasionally a 5 sec lag time, but that’s nothing.
Unlocking is being fixed. 3.6.3 was rolled out a little over a week ago for Gravity owners. Not all owners have received the update and some are still reporting issues with unlocking even after the update. It’s an issue that should have never existed in the first place. Lucid over-engineered the most basic component of a car, the thing that lets you in it.

And customer expectations can vary on what an acceptable wait time is on lag particularly since most other cars on the market have no lag. You either push a button or handle and the door unlocks, first time, every time. It gets a lot of negative attention because it’s a very basic expectation even in the cheapest of cars.
 
Unlocking is being fixed. 3.6.3 was rolled out a little over a week ago for Gravity owners. Not all owners have received the update and some are still reporting issues with unlocking even after the update. It’s an issue that should have never existed in the first place. Lucid over-engineered the most basic component of a car, the thing that lets you in it.

And customer expectations can vary on what an acceptable wait time is on lag particularly since most other cars on the market have no lag. You either push a button or handle and the door unlocks, first time, every time. It gets a lot of negative attention because it’s a very basic expectation even in the cheapest of cars.
It would be good to get a Gravity owner poll going on this now that 3.6.3 is out. Mine has been 100% for many months now. Not a single failure to lock or unlock and zero lag. 3.6.3 made it even more sensitive to my approach than before. But I'd be curious what % of owners still have major or even minor issues with this.
 
It would be good to get a Gravity owner poll going on this now that 3.6.3 is out. Mine has been 100% for many months now. Not a single failure to lock or unlock and zero lag. 3.6.3 made it even more sensitive to my approach than before. But I'd be curious what % of owners still have major or even minor issues with this.
Mine has been 100% since 3.6.0
 
Mine has been 100% since I bought the car five months ago. Never had a problem.
 
It would be good to get a Gravity owner poll going on this now that 3.6.3 is out. Mine has been 100% for many months now. Not a single failure to lock or unlock and zero lag. 3.6.3 made it even more sensitive to my approach than before. But I'd be curious what % of owners still have major or even minor issues with this.
Same here, zero issues whatsoever since 3.6. Noticed slightly better response upon approach, and handle action, since 3.6.3.
 
Yeah well my unlocking has gone from really reliable to kinda variable since I updated to 2.10.0. bummer because the car was perfect before.
 
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