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Has a couple errors on specs, but can simulate road trip performance.

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{vehicleNames}{routePart} | ABRP

Compare {vehicleNames} side by side{routePart}. See range, charging time, and route details with A Better Routeplanner.
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I put in the Lucid Gravity GT, Gravity Touring and Rivian R1S Max for comparison on a typically trip we do to Chicago to Cincinnati. Interesting to me how it adds charger stop inefficiencies to the total kwhr. So the GT is just better, 0 stops, no charging inefficiencies and it finishes faster (not by much), and 30% lower cost than a Rivian. Now reality is noone in my family can sit in the car for 4hr 57min straight without food and bathroom, so we usually do a one stop to get to destination at higher SOC.
 
Hadn't seen that tool before, very interesting, thank you!
 
illopp00 said:
Has a couple errors on specs, but can simulate road trip performance.

abetterrouteplanner.com

{vehicleNames}{routePart} | ABRP

Compare {vehicleNames} side by side{routePart}. See range, charging time, and route details with A Better Routeplanner.
abetterrouteplanner.com abetterrouteplanner.com


I put in the Lucid Gravity GT, Gravity Touring and Rivian R1S Max for comparison on a typically trip we do to Chicago to Cincinnati. Interesting to me how it adds charger stop inefficiencies to the total kwhr. So the GT is just better, 0 stops, no charging inefficiencies and it finishes faster (not by much), and 30% lower cost than a Rivian. Now reality is noone in my family can sit in the car for 4hr 57min straight without food and bathroom, so we usually do a one stop to get to destination at higher SOC.
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Thank you! It didn’t even occur to me that ABRP would have a website. I’ve always launched from the app.
 
Bus Driver said:
Thank you! It didn’t even occur to me that ABRP would have a website. I’ve always launched from the app.
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I often do trip planning on ABRP's website.
 
I like ABRP the app, but that EV comparison site is inaccurate and just about useless, at least for me.

I tried to compare my car, my wife's car and my friends car.

My friend's 2026 Tesla Model 3 Performance is the only one which actually had that trim in the list.

My 2025 Air Touring is in the list but it didn't have a way to select tire size which affects range and efficiency significantly, though oddly enough it did seem to report the EPA range as 383 miles, which only 1 mile off the 2024 EPA range with 20" wheels, except the 2025 is only 377. It also doesn't show it as having a great pump which it does. And it shows the same incorrect information if you select a 2026.

My wife's car is also not available in the list of trims at all a 2025 Genesis GV60 Performance AWD.

As such I am unable to get a useful comparison between any of the vehicles I currently care about.
 
I signed up and it showed a couple of charging sessions but since hasn’t updated. It says to enable data sharing in the car, which shows as enabled. Anyone know what I need to do? I contacted support with no response.
 
Good luck, but I find ABRP to be nearly useless for real world travel. I have had some laughable predictions for a trip that I do multiple times a year. The fact that Rivian bought ABRP doesn't make me feel confident in the figures either.
 
BobHutto said:
I signed up and it showed a couple of charging sessions but since hasn’t updated. It says to enable data sharing in the car, which shows as enabled. Anyone know what I need to do? I contacted support with no response.
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Make sure to select all the available charging networks in the Settings section
 
prgarg said:
Make sure to select all the available charging networks in the Settings section
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... assuming you are asking about the car's navigation, right?
 
I was mistaken. My charges are showing up but not my drives. It’s the Lucidtrackr app where the charges don’t show up.
 
illopp00 said:
Has a couple errors on specs, but can simulate road trip performance.

abetterrouteplanner.com

{vehicleNames}{routePart} | ABRP

Compare {vehicleNames} side by side{routePart}. See range, charging time, and route details with A Better Routeplanner.
abetterrouteplanner.com abetterrouteplanner.com


I put in the Lucid Gravity GT, Gravity Touring and Rivian R1S Max for comparison on a typically trip we do to Chicago to Cincinnati. Interesting to me how it adds charger stop inefficiencies to the total kwhr. So the GT is just better, 0 stops, no charging inefficiencies and it finishes faster (not by much), and 30% lower cost than a Rivian. Now reality is noone in my family can sit in the car for 4hr 57min straight without food and bathroom, so we usually do a one stop to get to destination at higher SOC.
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On your R1S, have you tried driving it in "Conserve" mode? If so, could you have made the Chicago to Cincinnati without stopping en-route to charge?
 
Macgreiner said:
Good luck, but I find ABRP to be nearly useless for real world travel. I have had some laughable predictions for a trip that I do multiple times a year. The fact that Rivian bought ABRP doesn't make me feel confident in the figures either.
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Interesting. I had just the opposite experience. I used it as a secondary routing and charging planner on a 4600mile road trip I just completed and it's SoC estimates seemed quite accurate. That is with a paid subscription and connecting it to my Lucid account so it can see actual usage data.

Its estimates we're better then the native NAV.
 
doubletwist said:
Interesting. I had just the opposite experience. I used it as a secondary routing and charging planner on a 4600mile road trip I just completed and it's SoC estimates seemed quite accurate. That is with a paid subscription and connecting it to my Lucid account so it can see actual usage data.

Its estimates we're better then the native NAV.
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I used ABRP with a paid subscription, connecting it to my Lucid, as well. However, the Lucid nav SOC prediction was very good, within a percent or two, while ABRP was off by more than 5%.

I used ABRP primarily for initial planning and getting charging station information, along with PlugShare. I need to do a road trip and try using just the native Lucid with the Google Maps Places integration in 3.6.0.
 
One of my biggest issues with the native nav for a road trip is that it likes to remove the current charging stop details before you're done charging, or sometimes even before you plug in, leaving you guessing how much you're supposed to charge to get the the next stop.

It also really needs:

1. The ability to replace a charging stop
2. The ability to delete a charging stop without removing them ALL
3. When you manually switch a charging stop, it should add it as an actual charging stop and do the calculations of charge time and how far to charge to the next stop instead of just noting it as "manually added" with no useful information
4. It REALLY needs to STOP TELLING ME TO MAKE IMPOSSIBLE LEFT TURNS!!!!! Not just illegal, but pjysically impoasible because there's a median or a curb preventing it because it's never been possible. Seriously, it's stupid and dangerous and it's going to get someone hurt, and I've never had Waze or Google Maps do that in decades of use.
 
@doubletwist when I decided not to stop at the charging stop and continued on the mapping automatically found the next stop along my route. That's not quite the same as you are saying you want above, but along I5 where there are plenty of DCFC's it works pretty well.
 
doubletwist said:
One of my biggest issues with the native nav for a road trip is that it likes to remove the current charging stop details before you're done charging, or sometimes even before you plug in, leaving you guessing how much you're supposed to charge to get the the next stop.

It also really needs:

1. The ability to replace a charging stop
2. The ability to delete a charging stop without removing them ALL
3. When you manually switch a charging stop, it should add it as an actual charging stop and do the calculations of charge time and how far to charge to the next stop instead of just noting it as "manually added" with no useful information
4. It REALLY needs to STOP TELLING ME TO MAKE IMPOSSIBLE LEFT TURNS!!!!! Not just illegal, but pjysically impoasible because there's a median or a curb preventing it because it's never been possible. Seriously, it's stupid and dangerous and it's going to get someone hurt, and I've never had Waze or Google Maps do that in decades of use.
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In Gravity, if you edit route you can add a charging stop and it will recalculate following charging stops. I am not sure if Air will do this.
 
doubletwist said:
..The ability to delete a charging stop without removing them ALL...
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We dealt with this by deleting the whole route, driving manually to the charging stop we wanted to, then re-entering the route from our new starting point.
 
ke2 said:
@doubletwist when I decided not to stop at the charging stop and continued on the mapping automatically found the next stop along my route. That's not quite the same as you are saying you want above, but along I5 where there are plenty of DCFC's it works pretty well.
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My recent road trip involved areas that were well off the beaten path (including the 255mi stretch between chargers) so sometimes I want to replace it with a closer charger, not one past where it suggests.

I also forgot to mention that it keeps trying to route me to Tesla chargers even though I've unchecked Tesla in the charger search preferences, and I drive an Air which the nav should know darn well charges super slow on and should only suggest as a very last resort.
 
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