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Buffalo Bob

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Just completed our return trip from WA to AZ. A little earlier than usual for us, so we will get a 'chance' to see how the car handles hot weather, but certainly not as hot as it got here earlier in the summer. Took the Boise/Salt Lake/Kanab/Flagstaff route. Pretty much followed the speed limits, but kept the speed down to 75 MPH (true speed) through the 80 MPH limit areas, as many cars seem to do. Got a little over 3.9 miles/kWh. The car once again performed flawlessly, although we did hear a couple inexplicable 'bang' sounds that had us scratching our heads. The inbuilt navigation's remaining range estimates were remarkably accurate. We had DDP recalibrated while in Seattle, and it performed much better this time around. Still though, it can't handle places where the right lane markers disappear for on/off ramps; especially when that happens on curves, wherein the car would try to leave the road. Does pretty well on two lane roads though! That said, the car is so easy to drive that I don't much care about HA until it gets further refined and hands-off / eyes-on becomes available.

Unfortunately, we have not received 2.4.0 yet. Too bad that 'early OTA download' list never got implemented...at least for me. It would have been fun to try out on such a trip!
 
Hope you had a good stay here in Sammamish.

Funny thing. One day this summer, my kid came home from a walk and showed me a picture of a Lucid they'd seen. I took one look and said... "pretty sure that's Buffalo Bob". My kid, at first, thought I was nuts.
 
mraschko said:
Hope you had a good stay here in Sammamish.

Funny thing. One day this summer, my kid came home from a walk and showed me a picture of a Lucid they'd seen. I took one look and said... "pretty sure that's Buffalo Bob". My kid, at first, thought I was nuts.
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That is funny. Thanks... we did indeed have another great summer in Sammamish, with the weather being particularly good. If your son photographed a cosmos silver Lucid, it was probably me, as I never saw another one. Were you the zenith red one I saw several times? Actually, I was surprised at how often I saw Lucids in the area. Wish we could have stayed there a little longer, as it's still pretty darn hot here!
 
Buffalo Bob said:
Just completed our return trip from WA to AZ. A little earlier than usual for us, so we will get a 'chance' to see how the car handles hot weather, but certainly not as hot as it got here earlier in the summer. Took the Boise/Salt Lake/Kanab/Flagstaff route. Pretty much followed the speed limits, but kept the speed down to 75 MPH (true speed) through the 80 MPH limit areas, as many cars seem to do. Got a little over 3.9 miles/kWh. The car once again performed flawlessly, although we did hear a couple inexplicable 'bang' sounds that had us scratching our heads. The inbuilt navigation's remaining range estimates were remarkably accurate. We had DDP recalibrated while in Seattle, and it performed much better this time around. Still though, it can't handle places where the right lane markers disappear for on/off ramps; especially when that happens on curves, wherein the car would try to leave the road. Does pretty well on two lane roads though! That said, the car is so easy to drive that I don't much care about HA until it gets further refined and hands-off / eyes-on becomes available.

Unfortunately, we have not received 2.4.0 yet. Too bad that 'early OTA download' list never got implemented...at least for me. It would have been fun to try out on such a trip!
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Curious how you did through the Kanab area on the way to Flagstaff. When we make the trip we have been going through Vegas which is the worst part of the entire trip - planning on doing the Flag route next summer. Although we have now sold our WA home and will enjoy the heat more often in the valley. But with frequent excursions to the north to maintain sanity.
 
Coho said:
Curious how you did through the Kanab area on the way to Flagstaff. When we make the trip we have been going through Vegas which is the worst part of the entire trip - planning on doing the Flag route next summer. Although we have now sold our WA home and will enjoy the heat more often in the valley. But with frequent excursions to the north to maintain sanity.
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We hate going through Vegas, with all its crazy-ass drivers, and we really wanted to get out of the heat as quickly as we could. Going through Kanab worked out well, both ways. On the way to Seattle, we charged our Pure AWD to 95% in Flagstaff, went through Kanab without charging, and drove through to Cedar City with close to 100 miles of remaining range on the inbuilt navigation. To be clear, we followed the speed limit the entire way. On the way back, we again charged to 95% in Cedar City, and the inbuilt navigation said we would arrive in Flagstaff with 75 miles of remaining range. Out of an abundance of caution, we added 50 miles of range at the ChargePoint station in Kanab, but it turns out that we would have gotten to Flagstaff with a little more than 75 miles without adding anything. If we had done the Page bypass route, which I forgot about until too late on the return trip, it would have added around ten minutes, but saved some additional energy.

The only unnerving thing is that there is just that one ChargePoint station enroute, but it has a PlugShare rating of 9, a number of CCS AC and DC chargers, and if you need to add, you would probably not have to add much. That said... even their three DC chargers are pretty slow, (ours ran at 27 kW), and I paid $0.73 per kWh for the 11 kWh I added.

The thing is... it's a really scenic and relaxing drive, and the small city of Kanab is quite nice. We plan to spend a night there the next time we head north. Looks like a great place for stargazing!
 
Coho said:
Curious how you did through the Kanab area on the way to Flagstaff. When we make the trip we have been going through Vegas which is the worst part of the entire trip - planning on doing the Flag route next summer. Although we have now sold our WA home and will enjoy the heat more often in the valley. But with frequent excursions to the north to maintain sanity.
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I should have added that I'm suggesting the following route.... Route 89 north from Flagstaff, then Route 89A west to Kanab, then back on Route 89 north to Route 14 west to Cedar City. BTW, on our total 440 mile leg from Cedar City to Tempe, we hit 4.5 miles/kWh!
 
Buffalo Bob said:
I should have added that I'm suggesting the following route.... Route 89 north from Flagstaff, then Route 89A west to Kanab, then back on Route 89 north to Route 14 west to Cedar City. BTW, on our total 440 mile leg from Cedar City to Tempe, we hit 4.5 miles/kWh!
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Love going downhill! Thanks for the advice.
 
Buffalo Bob said:
That is funny. Thanks... we did indeed have another great summer in Sammamish, with the weather being particularly good. If your son photographed a cosmos silver Lucid, it was probably me, as I never saw another one. Were you the zenith red one I saw several times? Actually, I was surprised at how often I saw Lucids in the area. Wish we could have stayed there a little longer, as it's still pretty darn hot here!
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No. I'm a quantum gray touring. You can most frequently find me in the Met Market parking lot. :)

I had a 2 Lucidy day on Sunday. I saw a Pure in Bellevue and another in Bellingham.
 
Buffalo Bob said:
That is funny. Thanks... we did indeed have another great summer in Sammamish, with the weather being particularly good. If your son photographed a cosmos silver Lucid, it was probably me, as I never saw another one. Were you the zenith red one I saw several times? Actually, I was surprised at how often I saw Lucids in the area. Wish we could have stayed there a little longer, as it's still pretty darn hot here!
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Isn't it amazing how excited we feel to see another Lucid? I was driving to Mt. Washington, NH from NJ last week and pass Boston, i heard some honking on I-95 and realized a silver Lucid approaching to my left with a lovely lady waving at us from her Lucid, which got us equally excited giving a thumbs up. I don't think any other brand EV owners got this feeling?
 
Buffalo Bob said:
I should have added that I'm suggesting the following route.... Route 89 north from Flagstaff, then Route 89A west to Kanab, then back on Route 89 north to Route 14 west to Cedar City. BTW, on our total 440 mile leg from Cedar City to Tempe, we hit 4.5 miles/kWh!
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One way or the other one should do Route 89A south from Flagstaff toward Phoenix. Spectacular drive through Oak Creek Canyon. I prefer the drive southbound but it is pretty either way.
 
Drcheema said:
Isn't it amazing how excited we feel to see another Lucid? I was driving to Mt. Washington, NH from NJ last week and pass Boston, i heard some honking on I-95 and realized a silver Lucid approaching to my left with a lovely lady waving at us from her Lucid, which got us equally excited giving a thumbs up. I don't think any other brand EV owners got this feeling?
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It's interesting... pretty much every time I've seen another Lucid on the road, I've waved. I've never noticed a return wave.
 
mraschko said:
It's interesting... pretty much every time I've seen another Lucid on the road, I've waved. I've never noticed a return wave.
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Sadly, there are some of those people out there as well. I recall one experience in NJ when i walked up to a guy sitting in a lucid charging next to me saying hey! nice to see another Lucid fellow, nice to meet you and his facial expressions were like 'Whatever'. But, that hasn't deterred me from continue to walk up to other Lucid drivers and connect and except that one experience all of them had been very welcoming and warm people.
 
Just completed another Seattle to Tempe run on our usual Boise/Salt Lake City/Kanab/Flagstaff run. 3.93 miles/kWh over 1,538 miles, which was about the same as last time. This was our first trip with aero covers on our 19's, but it was also the first trip where we drove a couple hundred miles in the rain. They seemed to have pretty much offset each other. On the Crescent City, UT to Tempe, AZ leg (440 miles), we averaged 4.42 miles/kWh. Nothing like some slower highway speeds and a nice elevation drop!

Hands-Free was great in and of itself, but the 'Pay Attention' prompts were often horrible to the point of just turning HA off. Other times, I could drive a long time with no alerts. AND it would never let me wear sunglasses unless it was so cloudy that I didn't need them. Any advice on that?
 
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Buffalo Bob said:
Hands-Free was great in and of itself, but the 'Pay Attention' prompts were often horrible to the point of just turning HA off. Other times, I could drive a long time with no alerts. AND it would never let me wear sunglasses unless it was so cloudy that I didn't need them. Any advice on that?
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Try a Gravity :cool:
 
Buffalo Bob said:
Just completed another Seattle to Tempe run on our usual Boise/Salt Lake City/Kanab/Flagstaff run. 3.93 miles/kWh over 1,538 miles, which was about the same as last time. This was our first trip with aero covers on our 19s, but it was also the first trip where we drove a couple of hundred miles in the rain. They seemed to have pretty much offset each other. On the Crescent City, UT to Tempe, AZ leg (440 miles), we averaged 4.42 miles/kWh. Nothing like some slower highway speeds and a nice elevation drop!

Hands-Free was great in and of itself, but the 'Pay Attention' prompts were often horrible to the point of just turning HA off. Other times, I could drive a long time with no alerts. AND it would never let me wear sunglasses unless it was so cloudy that I didn't need them. Any advice on that?
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Do you know if your sunglasses have an IR reflective coating? If so, your car camera may not be able to see your eyes. I don’t have DD Pro, but my BMW iX does not offer hands-free if I am wearing my new Ray-Ban. Also, my iPhone does not unlock when I am wearing this pair. My previous pairs worked just fine, but I can’t see the iX HUD with them. That is why I got these new ones. First world problems, I guess!
 
tonybot said:
Do you know if your sunglasses have an IR reflective coating? If so, your car camera may not be able to see your eyes. I don’t have DD Pro, but my BMW iX does not offer hands-free if I am wearing my new Ray-Ban. Also, my iPhone does not unlock when I am wearing this pair. My previous pairs worked just fine, but I can’t see the iX HUD with them. That is why I got these new ones. First world problems, I guess!
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I've got a pair of Maui Jim's with a highly reflective blue coating, and I expected a problem with them, but even a cheapo pair of non-coated sunglasses didn't pass muster.
 
FWIW, I exclusively have Maui Jim's (grey and bronze glass), and hands free face detection works great with either. I have a no glasses and sun glasses profile configured. I'd never drive in the day w/o sun glasses so I was pleasantly surprised how well it works (for me) with sun glasses..
 
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