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gaskiller said:
Probably totaled, you probably pressed the accelerator by mistake.
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as @borski said the logs will show all. These days cars know what you are doing (hands on wheel, which pedals are being pressed if any, ...). Your insurance should be asking for the information
 
gaskiller said:
Probably totaled, you probably pressed the accelerator by mistake.
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Please read my post again. I had backed up to then align myself / centered in the parking space ahead. I was already STOPPED. When I put it in DRIVE, it shot ahead. I would NOT have pressed the brake, but if I did in this case, it would have no effect - because I was already stopped.
 
knewman said:
Please do keep us updated on this. I was disappointed when that other user kinda disappeared.

I'm curious why you think braking would have had no effect?
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Please read my post again. I had backed up slowly to then align myself to be centered in the parking space ahead of me. I was already stopped by regen braking. I put it in DRIVE and it shot forward. I had no need to press the brake, and I certainly would not have accelerated to the floor to go forward (as it seemed); I would have just gently accelerated. It all happened SO fast, I don't think there would have been time to react and hit the braked to stop it anyway.
 
Doug-In-PSCA said:
My attorney does not charge a fee if I do prevail.
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Oh insurance litigation is a whole racket.

It’s also because claims like this happen multiple times a day. As long as nobody is injured, a good carrier just looks at it like “hey that’s why we have insurance” and they’ll pay it out. If you haven’t had a claim in a long time, it might not even hurt your rate. You obviously weren’t drunk and broke no laws so, hey, let’s just make it right.

As far as the question “does Lucid software have an unintended acceleration problem”, that’s not the insurers question to ask.
 
borski said:
The logs will absolutely show if you pressed the accelerator or not. UX 3.0 has nothing to do with the drive systems; it literally cannot, as it is exclusively an infotainment update on the CCC, which does not have access to the drive controls at all. That is a red herring.

I’m sorry this happened.
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Thank you. Yes, perhaps I didn't understand what the body shop tech said regarding graphs. I've now read that it will show exact data as to whether or not the accelerator was pressed, or it there was some kind of malfunction. I'll speak to the insurance adjuster and find out if they will request the logs, or if I should.
 
Doug-In-PSCA said:
My attorney does not charge a fee if I do prevail.
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Fortunately it does not appear that you were injured. From a legal standpoint the value of your case would be represented by the damage to your car. And to prevail your attorney would likely need to retain an expert to definitively establish that the car malfunctioned. And that would come at a cost. And assuming your car is insured, and your insurer issues a total loss settlement, they would have a lien on any settlement you might obtain. From an attorney’s perspective the case might not be attractive given the damages and potential settlement scenario.
 
socktucker said:
Oh insurance litigation is a whole racket.

It’s also because claims like this happen multiple times a day. As long as nobody is injured, a good carrier just looks at it like “hey that’s why we have insurance” and they’ll pay it out. If you haven’t had a claim in a long time, it might not even hurt your rate.
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I've never had an accident that was my fault. (Never even had a moving violation ticket.) There were a couple of claims where I was hit by uninsured motorists and my insurance company paid. I don't recall that my rates were changed back then or not. California is a no-fault state, so regardless of circumstances, I get dinged and was told my premium will increase by 45% !
 
Northpointe said:
Fortunately it does not appear that you were injured. From a legal standpoint the value of your case would be represented by the damage to your car. And to prevail your attorney would likely need to retain an expert to definitively establish that the car malfunctioned. And that would come at a cost. And assuming your car is insured, and your insurer issues a total loss settlement, they would have a lien on any settlement you might obtain. From an attorney’s perspective the case might not be attractive given the damages and potential settlement scenario.
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I don't expect to take this to an attorney anyway. I was responding to someone who said it would cost me at least $500 even to get it to trial. Have no idea what they meant by that.
 
AlignTrex said:
Lucid should look into this to determine if this is a driver error or fault of the car. Being proactive from a company speaks volumes. I will say, I had experienced something unusual with my Lucid. Driving through a pothole once, the car felt like it accelerated by itself faster than my cruising speed when I hit a pothole. It was scary to a point where I had to hit the brakes. It was as if the traction control was trying to compensate by accelerating. Anyone else experienced this before??
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Of course. My insurance company (or me) will obtain the black box data. There is simply no way that I could have hit the accelerator THAT HARD just pulling in to this parking space. And, as I've said, it's not an issue having anything to do with hitting the accelerator instead of the brake. After backing up, I shifted back into DRIVE and would have gently tapped the accelerator into the parking space. I didn't pull all the way in, intending to stop, and then hit the accelerator instead of the brake. I would have glided in and regen braking would have stopped the car instead of using the pedal.
 
borski said:
The logs will absolutely show if you pressed the accelerator or not. UX 3.0 has nothing to do with the drive systems; it literally cannot, as it is exclusively an infotainment update on the CCC, which does not have access to the drive controls at all. That is a red herring.

I’m sorry this happened.
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Yes, I've now learned what the black box data can or will show. And thank you regarding what 3.0 affects. I guess I was quick to include this issue because of all the quirks I'd had since it was installed.
 
Doug-In-PSCA said:
Of course. My insurance company (or me) will obtain the black box data. There is simply no way that I could have hit the accelerator THAT HARD just pulling in to this parking space. And, as I've said, it's not an issue having anything to do with hitting the accelerator instead of the brake. After backing up, I shifted back into DRIVE and would have gently tapped the accelerator into the parking space. I didn't pull all the way in, intending to stop, and then hit the accelerator instead of the brake. I would have glided in and regen braking would have stopped the car instead of using the pedal.
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will they share the logs with the customer?
 
watermelonrooste said:
How would one go about getting that information? Can you just ask the manufacturere or need to subponea it?
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I suspect that the car is not in the possession of Lucid given its condition. It’s most likely at a salvage yard or body shop which should be able to remove it. The insurer may be able to coordinate recovery.
 
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